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Old Dec 16, 2016 | 03:52 PM
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At what tune level is it necessary to use a heavier spring, or a variable pressure, or something else to put the rubber on the road?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2016 | 06:19 PM
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When you are throttling it and the RPMS are going faster but the wheel isn't.

Weight
Tire grip
Suspension settings
Torque
Are all factors

The weak link will give traction or clutch.

I would not say there is a specific "stage level"

When you need a stronger clutch you will feel it
 
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Old Dec 17, 2016 | 01:29 AM
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my clutch slipped when I went to 106 with S&S 585 cams, tune was at 98/115 then so fitted the heavy SE spring and it fixed it.

with the next build being quite stronger I fitted the AIM VPC as well as the SE spring and with the tune at around 121/121 it hasn't slipped.

hope that helps
 
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Old Dec 17, 2016 | 05:09 AM
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Added a cam (SE255) and I can easily slip the clutch now.
Winter project will be to add a Barnett clutch w/ heavy duty Barnett disk.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2016 | 06:49 AM
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when your driving thru the clutch,its time for a up grade (and to the previous post,if your clutch is easily slipping just with the addition of 255 cams,it isn't adjusted right,wrong fluid or some other problem)
 
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Old Dec 17, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gusotto
Added a cam (SE255) and I can easily slip the clutch now.
Winter project will be to add a Barnett clutch w/ heavy duty Barnett disk.
Originally Posted by prodrag1320
when your driving thru the clutch,its time for a up grade (and to the previous post,if your clutch is easily slipping just with the addition of 255 cams,it isn't adjusted right,wrong fluid or some other problem)
I'm going with prodrag on this one...just a 255 cam is not enough to make a properly working stock clutch slip. Something's wrong. Make no mistake, a Barnett clutch is great, but your stocker is not working right.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2016 | 07:33 AM
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On my 07 I had the stock clutch for 92000 miles it slipped a few times but on long uphill pulls passing a car after 500 miles on the road that day...just needed adjustments. I did swap with a Barnett set up and it grabs better but my stock clutch looked awesome when I took it out. I was extremely surprised.
This was running a set of Andrews 26H with a Power commander 5. 255 lbs.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2016 | 10:07 AM
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Had some head work done, upped comp., and pretty mild Andrews 57's in a 103. Was doing some fairly spirited riding in twist, hilly country and smoked the stock clutch. So badly in fact, I was in 3rd gear to get it back to the house. Wouldn't hold 4th, 5th, or 6th.

Alto Carbonite's and Barnett heavy spring fixed that problem. Then Mueller Power Clutch fixed the heavy spring issue. All good since.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 12:54 AM
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The screamin eagle diagram spring is only like $35 so why not just throw it on with your next oil change. I agree with what has been said about your stock clutch being bad if it's slipping with just a cam upgrade.

I'm running the Barnett with SE spring on a twin cam 88 worked over for about 100hp.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2016 | 09:02 AM
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When ever you increase the power of a motor you should always look upgrading the stock setup and with that I'm not saying just by adding a spring for more pressure. The whole clutch assembly will need to be addressed.

With more power and slippage you will create more heat and this heat can warp the steels creating long term affects. If your gonna upgrade because of a 20% increase in horse and torque do the entire clutch. Friction plates, steels and use packages that have a thicker a pressure plate and stronger springs. Less prone to warpage from heat. Yea it'll be a stiffer clutch pull but hey you wanted the power....
 
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