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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 09:24 AM
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Opened up cam chest on a friends bike last night to put in baisley spring for him. While there I rolled the engine over and noticed the timing marks where off by one tooth. It doesn't have a 4* crank gear in it. Anyone know how far off one tooth will be?? Bike has been dyno already, I'm sure if I line them up that will change everything. Not sure what cams are in it... he bought it used. It's a 96" heritage softtail. When turning it over the cam gear mark comes around before the crank so in my head it is advanced but not sure. Wasn't sure if this a old trick or not.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 12:49 PM
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Tooth on the big sprocket can be 10.5 of a degree. Tooth on small can be 21 degrees. I don't know of anyone that would do it on purpose.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 01:24 PM
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That's what I was afraid of... Guess I'll make it right and then he will have to get it tuned again. What is surprising is that it ran really well. Thanks.
 
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What year is the heritage?
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 03:29 PM
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07 Heritage, with a 96". Owner was told that cams have been changed when he bought it. I don't know what they are.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 05:22 PM
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If they are indeed of a tooth there would be a big difference in compression between the front and rear cylinder..... Before you rip it apart I would do a compression test... If off it would be an approximate 30 psi difference...
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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Got some pics of the gears. Not much more to say, pretty clear they are off. Just can't figure out how it even ran good at all. It's tuned with a SE tuner and I don't have the cables to check but I would think the ve's would have to be off.https://www.hdforums.com/forum/attac...1&d=1498001126
 
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Yea, No.... It looks more like chain stretch....
 
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Going back together now. Buddy decided to put in new cam plate/oil pump. Old one had some scoring on the face between the pump gears and the plate, and some light scoring on the gears. Reason we were in there was because of low pressure once it warmed up. Only carried around 15 going down the road with manual gauge hooked up. Light was coming on at idle. Crank has .0035" runout. When going back together the marks lined up perfectly when I moved the cam sprocket back one tooth. Ran compression test and had 210 ccp after 3 revolutions on both cylinders. Near as I can tell it has 255 cams but don't know anything else about the motor. Still trying to get ahold of po to find out what we can. Should be interesting...
 

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Old Jun 23, 2017 | 09:47 AM
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Yea, No.... It looks more like chain stretch....

If it were chain stretch, the marks would be pointing then other way.. Cam riming is off.
 
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