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Old Aug 15, 2018 | 09:41 PM
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I am running a K&N RK-3909-1 High flow air intake system with XiED, to richen AFR, and stock pipes, on my 07 FLSTC, 96 TC motor. https://www.knfilters.com/search/pro...prod=RK-3909-1
As I understand it this filter eliminates the crankcase breathers into the throttle body by blocking the breathers.
Apparently the breather bolts vent into a small cylindrical space but not to atmosphere or tube to ground.
I understand it is good to eliminate the breathers into the intake but is it good to just block the breathers?
Should I install a breather kit to vent to ground and allow the breathers to breathe?
My main concern is overall motor health, I am happy with the performance as is.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2018 | 10:42 PM
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Vent to atmosphere. Don't block them off.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2018 | 11:41 PM
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I would not vent to atmosphere. I would allow the intake to keep the negative pressure on crankcase. This increases ring tension and less blow by. More power. The emissions side of it just bonus for the manufacturer.
Don't buy into the BS about oil residue on your pistons unless you have 50,000 miles or serious blow by issues.
If anything, venting to atmosphere costs you power.
Have a look at other disciplines high performance engines. In the worst case scenario they might add an inline oil separator
 
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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 06:29 AM
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Drilling the rocker support plate drain holes to .125" will help breather mist.
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Here's a REPORT LINK on External Venting and why it's so crucial for engine health.

Definitely don't want this going back into your engine-

 
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If that was a sealed catch can system then yeah I would agree, but just throwing on an open filter breather? No way
 
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Originally Posted by Hillsidecycle.com
Drilling the rocker support plate drain holes to .125" will help breather mist.
Scott
How so? Just curious. I like knowing stuff, and you're one of the smartest Harley guys I know of.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 02:36 PM
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Not Scott but he will tell you the same; bigger hole will allow more to drain through. Seen too many dynos with breathers vented to a catch can (not sealed so fumes can exit) with no loss of power over internal venting to buy the donk 316 postulate that venting to the atmosphere results in a loss of power. If you "don't buy the BS about oil residue on pistons until you have 50,000 miles" on the motor; check out the attached photos.
 
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Originally Posted by djl
Not Scott but he will tell you the same; bigger hole will allow more to drain through. ...

If you "don't buy the BS about oil residue on pistons until you have 50,000 miles" on the motor; check out the attached photos.
It's all good, DJ... You are also one of the smarter HD guys I know.
 
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I would breath to atmosphere and not into your engine. When you want all the power. You are wide open. Manifold should be running 100 kpa which equals atmosphere pressure. So, no vacuum on crank case is present. I understand the logic but it isn't needed with PCV valves or the umbrella ones in your rocker boxes. Take away the one ways, and different conversation.
 
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