Engine Mechanical Topics Discussion for motor builds, cams, head work, stripped bolts and other engine related issues. The good and the bad. If it goes round and around or up and down, post it here.

2004 88ci Rebuild advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 3, 2019 | 06:20 PM
  #11  
MadGriz's Avatar
MadGriz
Advanced
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 58
Likes: 12
From: Western New York
Default

Since you need to change the flywheels you should consider boring the cases too. A 114 would be my target.
 
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2019 | 11:50 PM
  #12  
AddyNZ's Avatar
AddyNZ
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: New Zealand
Default

Originally Posted by MadGriz
Since you need to change the flywheels you should consider boring the cases too. A 114 would be my target.
What do you mean bore the casings? To fit a newer style crank?
 
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2019 | 04:17 AM
  #13  
MadGriz's Avatar
MadGriz
Advanced
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 58
Likes: 12
From: Western New York
Default

Not that. If you need to change out the crank/flywheels assembly then you have an opportunity to to bore the cases where the spigots fit. That leaves room for cylinders.over 4inches go with the longer stroke so you can get to 113, 117 or bigger. Look at Axtel for kits. The best running motor will have similar bore to stroke ratio called "square" or close to it. They are faster reving and more reliable than long stroke motors.
 
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2019 | 12:50 PM
  #14  
MadGriz's Avatar
MadGriz
Advanced
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 58
Likes: 12
From: Western New York
Default

Here is one. There are many.
https://www.millennium-tech.net/prod...products_id=84
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2019 | 07:24 AM
  #15  
Mattbastard's Avatar
Mattbastard
Grand HDF Member
Veteran: Air Force
15 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4,315
Likes: 1,663
From: Tampa
Default

In my opinion, boring the cases is taking the engine to an unnecessary extreme for a daily rider. I've done two Harley engines with case boring to get mad cubes (88" Sportster and a 106" Evo) and both of them were wicked quick bikes, but their "streetability" fell and made them not very enjoyable bikes to ride for the long run. Not to mention, I'm having the damndest time keeping the 106" Evo from melting pistons.

You can get 110" from the stock Twin Cam cases with the stroker crank and the latest technology of piston/cylinder combinations from many of our forum vendors who build engines for a living. Check them out, you'll have more than enough power and you won't need to send your case away for boring to allow for the larger bore cylinders of anything greater than a 110".
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2019 | 08:05 AM
  #16  
prodrag1320's Avatar
prodrag1320
Banned
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,569
Likes: 624
From: deland,florida
Default

Originally Posted by Mattbastard
In my opinion, boring the cases is taking the engine to an unnecessary extreme for a daily rider. I've done two Harley engines with case boring to get mad cubes (88" Sportster and a 106" Evo) and both of them were wicked quick bikes, but their "streetability" fell and made them not very enjoyable bikes to ride for the long run. Not to mention, I'm having the damndest time keeping the 106" Evo from melting pistons.

You can get 110" from the stock Twin Cam cases with the stroker crank and the latest technology of piston/cylinder combinations from many of our forum vendors who build engines for a living. Check them out, you'll have more than enough power and you won't need to send your case away for boring to allow for the larger bore cylinders of anything greater than a 110".




boring the cases or going big inches will have no negative effects on reliability.the way the motor is built will.a small very aggressively built motor will give same problems as a large aggressively build,best way to reliable HP/TQ is a big,mildly built motor.a VERY mild 124" will yield 135+/140+ and have much better reliability & longevity than a smaller motor doing the same HP/TQ
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2019 | 08:31 AM
  #17  
MadGriz's Avatar
MadGriz
Advanced
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 58
Likes: 12
From: Western New York
Default

You make some good points Mattbastard. It was mentioned that the Timkin would be a good idea. If that is done is where my suggestion comes in.
I know a guy that had a twisted crank so he did the Timkin upgrade and bored the cases while it was at the shop. This was planned out build.
Here is what he ended up with; 4.375 stroke, 4.125 bore, flat top pistons, 91cc heads with .045" gasket, woods 777 cams, 55mm TBI. = 117 cu\in. Corrected compression works out to about 9.5:1. His HP/TQ numbers are both a bit above the one per cube ratio.
This bike runs as close to a '72 500 cu\in Cadillac as you can get in a TC. Smooth and powerful.
I'm sure 4.375 stroke, 4.0 bore 110 would be a good rummer too and cost less.
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2019 | 07:49 PM
  #18  
98hotrodfatboy's Avatar
98hotrodfatboy
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 21,116
Likes: 7,640
From: Poolville
Default

Originally Posted by MadGriz
You make some good points Mattbastard. It was mentioned that the Timkin would be a good idea. If that is done is where my suggestion comes in.
I know a guy that had a twisted crank so he did the Timkin upgrade and bored the cases while it was at the shop. This was planned out build.
Here is what he ended up with; 4.375 stroke, 4.125 bore, flat top pistons, 91cc heads with .045" gasket, woods 777 cams, 55mm TBI. = 117 cu\in. Corrected compression works out to about 9.5:1. His HP/TQ numbers are both a bit above the one per cube ratio.
This bike runs as close to a '72 500 cu\in Cadillac as you can get in a TC. Smooth and powerful.
I'm sure 4.375 stroke, 4.0 bore 110 would be a good rummer too and cost less.
Your cubic inch numbers are way off you're looking at a 124"er and a 120"er which you can still build reliably as Kirby said....
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 5, 2019 | 08:21 PM
  #19  
MadGriz's Avatar
MadGriz
Advanced
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 58
Likes: 12
From: Western New York
Default

Are you sure 98hotrodfatboy? I think my numbers are correct.
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2019 | 08:45 PM
  #20  
98hotrodfatboy's Avatar
98hotrodfatboy
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 21,116
Likes: 7,640
From: Poolville
Default

Crap had my numbers reversed...
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:43 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE