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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 08:35 AM
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You may have read my previous post. We were told the bike was a 95" with a 203. Opened the cam cover and pulled the cam plate to find stock cams and a very worn rear tensioner. Ordered CYCO shoes but need to make a choice.
Engine ran great so do we repair and just put it back together and think big picture i.e. barrels, heads and cams this winter?
I also have a set of SE203 cams. Do I replace the stock and then put it back together and run it for the remainder of the year?
Install Andrews 37 or S&S 510 now and settle for these as the solution for future mods?
Bike has a carb, SE Pro 2 into 1 exhaust and SE Air Filter. He is looking for a build that has good mid to top end power and is happy with the low end TQ it currently has.
Part purchases will be occuring very soon so any advise is greatly appreciated.
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The answer to this question always comes down to how much money one wants to spend. Once that is known, one does as much as the available funds will allow. Base line at this point would be to replace the tensioners with the CYCO parts, replace inner and outer cam bearings, install the SE203 cams button up the cam chest, re-jet the carb and ride the bike until you can figure out how much you want to spend and develop a plan for a winter project.
 

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I'm in roughly the same boat, just slightly farther down the rabbit hole. Mine is a 2000 ultra with the fuel injection and 108k on it. I'm looking at a top end due to some oil consumption and smoking at high throttle settings, so due for a refresh. DJI and I have been hashing out a plan of action on mine for almost a week now, you can check out that thread below.

where you already have the cam chest open and the cans on hand, you may as well install the new cams. The 203's aren't a real high performance cam, but more aggressive than the stock carbed cams are. That should give a bit of pep until you open up the cylinders at a later date.
 
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The answer to this question always comes down to how much money one wants to spend. Once that is known, one does as much as the available funds will allow. Base line at this point would be to replace the tensioners with the CYCO parts, replace inner and outer cam bearings, install the SE203 cams button up the cam chest, re-jet the carb and ride the bike until you can figure out how much you want to spend and develop a plan for a winter project.
I think down time is more of an issue than funds. If it were mine I'd do exactly what you recommended. I've never ridden a stock 88 with and S&S 510 or Andrews 37 so I have no idea how soft it might be down low.

Again thank you for your input.
 
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i second DJL's idea. you have the stuff on hand so do it.
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Originally Posted by 2013_FLHTK
I've never ridden a stock 88 with and S&S 510 so I have no idea how soft it might be down low.
Rode my RK in that configuration for 15years, no issues


 

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Originally Posted by 2013_FLHTK
I think down time is more of an issue than funds. If it were mine I'd do exactly what you recommended. I've never ridden a stock 88 with and S&S 510 or Andrews 37 so I have no idea how soft it might be down low.

Again thank you for your input.
If all parts are on hand, down time is minimal. You are looking at part of a Saturday but you will need a press or access to a press to install the cams. You will also need a blind hole puller which can be rented from Auto Zone or Advanced Auto Parts to pull the inner cam bearings which can be tapped in using one of the old cams as a driver; just have to be careful. Freeze the bearings over night, liberally apply cam lube and tap them in with numbers facing out.. There is also the "oven/freezer" method for installing outer cam bearings on the cams as well as installing cams into the cam plate which eliminates the need for a press. Have done it a couple of times before buying tools and a press which was needed for other projects.

A stock or Stage I TC88 will be soft on the bottom with the Andrews 37 or the S&S 510 as compared to other cam choices.
 
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If all parts are on hand, down time is minimal. You are looking at part of a Saturday but you will need a press or access to a press to install the cams. You will also need a blind hole puller which can be rented from Auto Zone or Advanced Auto Parts to pull the inner cam bearings which can be tapped in using one of the old cams as a driver; just have to be careful. Freeze the bearings over night, liberally apply cam lube and tap them in with numbers facing out.. There is also the "oven/freezer" method for installing outer cam bearings on the cams as well as installing cams into the cam plate which eliminates the need for a press. Have done it a couple of times before buying tools and a press which was needed for other projects.

A stock or Stage I TC88 will be soft on the bottom with the Andrews 37 or the S&S 510 as compared to other cam choices.
I have an indy shop that will assist us with the cam swap. Do you think the SE203 will have decent performance? Better than stock? I've read they are great and POS.
 
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Originally Posted by 2013_FLHTK
I have an indy shop that will assist us with the cam swap. Do you think the SE203 will have decent performance? Better than stock? I've read they are great and POS.
I would not classify any HD cam as "great"; "good" is about as far as I can go. Having said that, the SE203 would not be a bad choice for a Stage I Dyna being a bit lighter than a touring model. You are going into the cam chest anyway with no plans beyond replacing tensioners. While you are in there, replace inner cam bearings with B148s and install the 203 cams which will require replacing the outer cam bearings. Re jet and tune the carb and it will perform better than stock and will probably keep you happy while you develop a winter build plan.

The CV40 gets talked down a lot but it is actually a good carb. Drill the vacuum port to 1/8", clip a couple of loops off the slide spring to reduce tension, get a couple of .025" SS washers so you can experiment with raising the needle and get a couple of sizes larger on the main jet. Check the bottom of the carb to see if the cap concealing the A/F idle screw has been removed as you will likely need to make an adjustment there as well. Nightrider has some good info on the CV40 carb and CV Performance has all the other hardware you will need for the carb.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/
https://cv-performance.com/harley-cv-carburetor-parts
 

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I have an indy shop that will assist us with the cam swap. Do you think the SE203 will have decent performance? Better than stock? I've read they are great and POS.
The 203's will be an increase over the OEM cams.
Not a barn-burner, but an increase nonetheless.
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