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Old Mar 16, 2021 | 07:20 PM
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I'm looking at getting some more power out of my 14 103HO SG motor , talked to a shop the other day that said he was running a special that sounds pretty good , wondering what folks here think about it ?

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My103 cylinders bored for new pistons to make 107
New S&S lifters and adj push rods
New inner cam bearings
T-Man 590 cams
Upgrade oil pump
CC and surface heads for corrected compression ratio
Barnett HD clutch spring
TTS tuner
Install / perform all the work and dyno tune
$3900
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Hpi 55mm TB add $550
5.3 injectors add $200

Dyno sheet on this set up turned in a 111HP and 128 TQ ,
nice torque curve with a 100 ft lbs at 2K , hit 120 ft lbs at 2700 arching to 128 ft lbs 3500 - 4K, carrying 120 ft lbs through 4800 rpm

 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 08:14 AM
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The throttle body and fuel injectors likely won't be beneficial in just a modest 107"
 
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by twincam10353
The throttle body and fuel injectors likely won't be beneficial in just a modest 107"

Agreed. The 50 TB is enough on that build. I pulled 120HP out of a 50mm on a 107. It did hold the build back a few HP, but it wasn't worth the $ IMO or the builders.
 
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IMHO, a fair price for the scope of work. The TMan 590PS2 cam is a good one; have run it's predecessor, the 590, in my all bore 107" '02 FLHT with good results. Did change to the 600SM and liked it even better but I think TMan has dropped the 600SM from his Twin Cam line. Set compression between 10.5 and 11 and, with a good tune, you're gonna love it.: Larger T/B not a cost effective upgrade IMHO and durng the tuning process your tuner can see if the 4.9 injectors are operating in their duty cycle but the larger injectors should not be required either.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 08:41 PM
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IMHO, a fair price for the scope of work. The TMan 590PS2 cam is a good one; have run it's predecessor, the 590, in my all bore 107" '02 FLHT with good results. Did change to the 600SM and liked it even better but I think TMan has dropped the 600SM from his Twin Cam line. Set compression between 10.5 and 11 and, with a good tune, you're gonna love it.: Larger T/B not a cost effective upgrade IMHO and durng the tuning process your tuner can see if the 4.9 injectors are operating in their duty cycle but the larger injectors should not be required either.
The pistons are CP +6cc domes which looks to be 10.75:1 compression on their web site , I'm pretty much leaning towards doing it.
 
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Originally Posted by Stopit
The pistons are CP +6cc domes which looks to be 10.75:1 compression on their web site , I'm pretty much leaning towards doing it.
Plugging the data into the BigBoyz calculator shows static to be 11.3:1, corrected at 10,2 and CCP at 217psi, so hope you have a really good tuner and compression releases. I run a 98" motor just a tad under that evel of compression but I do have a really good tuner. Just a cautionary note to double check the compression calcs to be sure you and the builder/tuner are comfortable with the level of compression. Might want to consider a 3cc dome piston?
 
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Originally Posted by djl
Plugging the data into the BigBoyz calculator shows static to be 11.3:1, corrected at 10,2 and CCP at 217psi, so hope you have a really good tuner and compression releases. I run a 98" motor just a tad under that evel of compression but I do have a really good tuner. Just a cautionary note to double check the compression calcs to be sure you and the builder/tuner are comfortable with the level of compression. Might want to consider a 3cc dome piston?
I'll double check those are the pistons he's using , that is a bit steeper compression than I was anticipating . I was also thinking the 3 cc would be closer since they are cc'ing and surfacing my heads to get the compression ratio they want, maybe that's more to match them exactly. I just have the stock auto compression releases. This shop was recommended to me by a tuner in the Fort Worth area since it is much closer to me. They know each other and have worked with each other some sharing tuning tricks with the TTS tuner so I'm feeling good that he knows his stuff.
 
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Originally Posted by twincam10353
The throttle body and fuel injectors likely won't be beneficial in just a modest 107"

It would if the heads were ported but they aren't..
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
It would if the heads were ported but they aren't..
Agreed.
 
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Right now I am having some work done on my bike and I will be paying around $2,400 and only for about half the work that will be done on your bike. The only parts I am getting new parts I am getting are an oil pump and a new cam support plate, plus some work on the heads, valves, and valve guides. Your price is not unreasonable.
 

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