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Old May 14, 2021 | 03:57 PM
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Got my bike back today from the shop. It is a 2000 Heritage Springer, which I was told was a 107 c.i., but now, it turns out, it is a 113 c.i. In the last three years, so much work has been done to it that it is hard to imagine. Much of this was done by the previous owner in 2018. It had a new six speed transmission installed, ported Screaming Eagle heads, Screaming Eagle cam plate, Screaming Eagle crank shaft, pistons, valves, tappets, oil pump...and the list goes on and on. Why was it in the shop you ask? To get rid of the typical clatter and ticking noises, and to repair a lose valve guide. Since I purchased it last year, I installed S&S tappets, S&S Quickee adjustable push rods, Rocker Lockers, went to dyno oil. None of this worked. The most recent work these last couple of weeks included a new Feuling cam plate, oil pump, valves, valve guides. And still, the ticking continues. Now, over $2,600 later, the bike still has the obnoxious ticking. My mechanic tells me it is coming from the cams, which are larger than stock. He said I should not adjust the push rods any flats past the four turns. I am now out of money and ideas. No, there are no other parts I could change, even if I wanted to. I hate to admit it, but I should have kept my 1999 Goldwing.
 

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Old May 14, 2021 | 06:09 PM
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If you have fuel injection, injectors can tick. Can't hear it. Just a guess.
 
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Old May 14, 2021 | 07:26 PM
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Carbureted. Mikuni carb HSR 42. But there is a noticeable drumming sound coming from the carburetor. It is not the slide. My mechanic says some carbs do that drum noise. It is not the same ticking sound I, and my mechanic hear. Both sounds happen at the same time.
 
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Old May 14, 2021 | 08:54 PM
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With heavy springs and a chain driven cam, you'll get a tick with the early tensioners. They can't keep tension.
 
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Old May 14, 2021 | 09:26 PM
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Youre hearing reversion from the high lift cam through the open air filter. I run two different setups on my bike...one uses the stock football over the high flow filter. The other i run just the open filter with a decorative cover that doesn't cover any of the filter itself. The football is definitely quieter than the open filter with no cover. Don't forget its an air cooled motor based a 100+ year old design that you're sitting right on top of, its going to make noise. Mine comes and goes at different rpms too...got a 300 rpm zone where its super quiet but the rest of the time its clanging and banging away, its just the way it is.
 
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Old May 14, 2021 | 09:48 PM
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Youre hearing reversion from the high lift cam through the open air filter. I run two different setups on my bike...one uses the stock football over the high flow filter. The other i run just the open filter with a decorative cover that doesn't cover any of the filter itself. The football is definitely quieter than the open filter with no cover. Don't forget its an air cooled motor based a 100+ year old design that you're sitting right on top of, its going to make noise. Mine comes and goes at different rpms too...got a 300 rpm zone where its super quiet but the rest of the time its clanging and banging away, its just the way it is.

It could be but like you say usually goes away at different RPMs or when you whack the throttle. If it's constant with RPMs it's likely valve train. Heck maybe even those Rocker Locker thingies might work.
 
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Old May 14, 2021 | 10:57 PM
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It has hydraulic cam chain tensioners.
Rocker Lockers were installed.
Valve train issue has been ruled out. New valves, valve guides and springs were installed.
Rocker arms were inspected. No extra play.

Has Screaming Eagle high flow cone air cleaner. Do I need to get rid of it, to at least do away with the reversion?

As for the ticking, I can't figure out where it is coming from, even with a stethoscope, but I am sure it is on the right side (carburetor side), but it is not the carburetor slide.

I also have a 2006 Heritage Classic. It purrs like a sewing machine. Not a click nor a clack. The Springer and the Classic are two different machines. So no, I do not believe in the notion that "they all do that."
 

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Old May 15, 2021 | 08:14 AM
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Well, it's not a "they all do that", It's a "some do that" Some motors are noisier then others.

Does it make the noise when cold?
 
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Mine makes so much noise sometimes I think it's alive.
As long as they don't change, I'm good to go.
 
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Old May 15, 2021 | 09:09 AM
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You say you changed the pushrods, did the old ones have any 'marks' on them? With a big cam, they can hit where the tubes go through the heads.

Also the rocker may be hitting the inside of the rocker covers. They have to be 'relieved' (ground out for clearance).

You may be able to pinpoint it if you run it with the rocker covers removed.
 
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