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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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I doubt they ever used pure aluminum ever. It's too soft. 356 aluminum which is commonly used for casting is only 0.2% iron with silicon and manganese.. 319 does have 1% The castings still look like aluminum.
an aluminum steel alloy?.. i didnt know such an alloy was possible but im not a metallurgist so... interesting.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 10:21 AM
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an aluminum steel alloy?.. i didnt know such an alloy was possible but im not a metallurgist so... interesting.



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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Crankee Yankee
.. if it walks like an aluminum head, & talks like an aluminum head what else would you call it besides an ironhead?. lol. i think the lingo that lots of riders use to describe the two is 'shovelhead'.. ive heard it used to describe iron xl's often..

". ive heard it used to describe iron xl's often.."

Only by the ignorant!!!!............And there are many of them that show up at the bar in new leathers and boots trying to impress. Used to love watching them leave the bar, ride around to the back parking lot, then load up on their trailers.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Crankee Yankee
an aluminum steel alloy?.. i didnt know such an alloy was possible but im not a metallurgist so... interesting.

Google is your friend.. 1% ain't much.. There does seem to be someone doing higher levels but they weren't doing it back when shovels were new..

https://www.treehugger.com/new-ultra...tanium-4863290

 
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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Google is your friend.. 1% ain't much.. There does seem to be someone doing higher levels but they weren't doing it back when shovels were new..

https://www.treehugger.com/new-ultra...tanium-4863290

The old castings had so much impurity in them I've actually seen rust specs on some cases & heads for the 40's & early 50's stuff that had been sitting for years. Also why they coated the inside of the engine & trans case with the red based sealer back then, so porous they'd weep oil.
 

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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Also why they coats the inside of the engine & trans case with the red based sealer back then, so porous they'd weep oil.
^ General Electric "Glyptal" insulating paint for electric motors
 
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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 12:47 PM
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I've repaired the left front motor mount on a couple panheads and one knuckle using a 180 Lincoln AC welder with HF start and Tig torch. In order to get enough heat into the cases, they need too be heated with a rose bud. When doing do, the case will ooze oil out of the pores and burn.. IIRC the left front breaks when top mount comes loose.. The buildup process is a PITA as all kinds of crap comes bubbling up.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
I've repaired the left front motor mount on a couple panheads and one knuckle using a 180 Lincoln AC welder with HF start and Tig torch. In order to get enough heat into the cases, they need too be heated with a rose bud. When doing do, the case will ooze oil out of the pores and burn.. IIRC the left front breaks when top mount comes loose.. The buildup process is a PITA as all kinds of crap comes bubbling up.

Yup done a few old trans cases & inner primaries, same issues. Got fixture plates around here somewhere I made for the mounts and the kicker cover side to hold things square during the repair. Used to have a 35 gal drum 1/2 full with methyl ethyl ketone I'd soak the old stuff in for a few days to leech the oil out, worked rather well. EPA killed that long ago. Then there was an auto engine shop that had a power hot soak I'd use occasionally till they closed.

Was looking at my torch bottles the other day, gotta be 10+ years since I used them last. Gonna have to go through all this stuff and start getting rid of it, not doing this kinda work anymore and I'm not a youngster these days.
 
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