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Old Mar 18, 2024 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
What is wrong with 175-190 CCP?

Looks fine to me...
No more than 10 psi difference between the 2 cylinders I thought?
 

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Sad to see the compression test results. After another good ride today I came home and did a compression test. Engine hot. Throttle wide open. Cranked until the readings stabilized:

190 psi Rear
175 psi Front

Adding oil to the front cylinder brings the reading up to about 200 psi

I am surprised how well the bike runs (minus the blow by) with those readings. Both plugs look fine/not oil fouled.

The gamble to buying a bike modded with no paperwork.

I bought it with 5k. It now has 14k. Someone was in the motor due to the Andrews cams. I suspect higher compression as well since hot starts sometimes cause a kickback (retarding the Fireball 1 degree helped).

Still has the stock tensioner setup.... may be looking into a 95" kit sooner than I thought....

I am going to try getting a scope into the cylinder to investigate further.

With that CCP, I'd bet you have a bore kit in it also.. What curves are you running?

I'm with Dan, toss that catch.. If it still drips you can try larger drain back holes.
 
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With that CCP, I'd bet you have a bore kit in it also.. What curves are you running?

I'm with Dan, toss that catch.. If it still drips you can try larger drain back holes.
When I got the bike whatever clown tuned the Fireball before me set the limiter to 7500 RPM.... advance curve 5 (comparable to a stockish curve) and initial timing 0.

I noticed a hint of spark knock pulling from a dig at WOT.... plus the hot start kickback. I went to curve 4 and initial -1. No more kickback and I don't hear detonation. I set the limiter to 6200.

This engine really should have compression releases. If I pull the plug wires and try to start it continuously it will kickback and grind. Initial curve to -1 works fine since the motor fires right off. I am going to try a higher CCA Lithium battery I have in the garage.

So the more than 10 psi difference between the cylinders is OK?
 

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So the more than 10 psi difference between the cylinders is OK?
The standard is 10 percent, not PSI.
 
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Originally Posted by garystaven88
When I got the bike whatever clown tuned the Fireball before me set the limiter to 7500 RPM.... advance curve 5 (comparable to a stockish curve) and initial timing 0.

I noticed a hint of spark knock pulling from a dig at WOT.... plus the hot start kickback. I went to curve 4 and initial -1. No more kickback and I don't hear detonation. I set the limiter to 6200.

Yeah, I'd back off to 3 and -2. Just because you don't hear the ping doesn't mean the timing is optimum. It wouldn't surprise me that if you look inside the cylinders you see scratches on the rear facing walls.. Can you tell if it has Cometic head gaskets?
 
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Yeah, I'd back off to 3 and -2. Just because you don't hear the ping doesn't mean the timing is optimum. It wouldn't surprise me that if you look inside the cylinders you see scratches on the rear facing walls.. Can you tell if it has Cometic head gaskets?
I did in fact try that exact combo of 3 advance and -2 initial/base before but I felt a noticeable loss of umph.... really needs a dyno run to get it right.

Would those scratches be from timing being too advanced? I will check and see the head gaskets.
 
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
The standard is 10 percent, not PSI.
Ah ok I see that now in the manual. I figured on a v-Twin you would want both cylinders to be pretty close to each other.
 
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I did in fact try that exact combo of 3 advance and -2 initial/base before but I felt a noticeable loss of umph.... really needs a dyno run to get it right.

Would those scratches be from timing being too advanced? I will check and see the head gaskets.
Too much timing, too much fuel.. You'll probably have to lean it out..
 
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