CAM INSTALL ISSUES
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Yes the anti-rotation pin. Hopefully no damage. Just see if there's a loose pushrod when you check.
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Sorry for all the questions, but thank you for your help. Im leaning towards having it towed to the dealer and having them go through and check/adjust everything. That way its done, checked, and I know its done right. Your thoughts on that and riding it back from the dealer without a proper/current tune?
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Sorry for all the questions, but thank you for your help. Im leaning towards having it towed to the dealer and having them go through and check/adjust everything. That way its done, checked, and I know its done right. Your thoughts on that and riding it back from the dealer without a proper/current tune?
on install was the cams on their base circle prior to PR adjustment? Were they installed and adjusted correctly ?
if so , then personally don’t think you let it run long enough at initial start-up.
The dealer/shop will.
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That is my plan for now. Thank you for your response.
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Sorry for all the questions, but thank you for your help. Im leaning towards having it towed to the dealer and having them go through and check/adjust everything. That way its done, checked, and I know its done right. Your thoughts on that and riding it back from the dealer without a proper/current tune?
Pretty sure no damage has been done and based on the information you have provided, check for a loose pushrod as Lonewolf has suggested. Set each cylinder at TDC on the compression stroke, open the push rod tubes and see if you can spin the push rods and if there is any vertical movement. If there is, readjust the push rods and set preload at .125"
Just for ***** and giggles, a compression test will verify if the cam timing is correct. There have been many posters here that swear the timing marks on the inner sprockets were correctly aligned but a compression check tells a different story. If cam timing is off that could explain the rough idle.
If pushrods spin, no vertical movement detected and cam timing checks out, start if up and let it rattle; the noise should diminish. Whether you wait for the new tune or not is up to you but the new tune is not going to resolve the valve train noise; you can solve that problem now. Good luck.
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Well I kinda think you are so close you shouldn't give up 
. Have a go at readjusting the pushrods. It does take a bit for lifters to pump up. If you can spin them quickly
after adjusting then they aren't pumped up. As for riding it home taking it easy may be safe but being a dyno guy there's nothing like a well tuned bike.
Which I doubt will happen with a downloaded map anyways.
. Have a go at readjusting the pushrods. It does take a bit for lifters to pump up. If you can spin them quicklyafter adjusting then they aren't pumped up. As for riding it home taking it easy may be safe but being a dyno guy there's nothing like a well tuned bike.
Which I doubt will happen with a downloaded map anyways.
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Take a breath; the situation you are experiencing is quite common. Don't know your dealer tech but the only way you know "it's done right" is to do it your self. Good information from the other posters and I am inclined to agree with Lonewolf. If this is the first time you have adjusted pushrods, there is a 50/50 chance that the adjustment may be off and the noise you hear is a combination of lifters that are not pumped up and a pushrod, or two, that may be loose. Are you sure the pushrods were adjusted at TDC on the compression stroke? What preload did you put on the lifters?
Pretty sure no damage has been done and based on the information you have provided, check for a loose pushrod as Lonewolf has suggested. Set each cylinder at TDC on the compression stroke, open the push rod tubes and see if you can spin the push rods and if there is any vertical movement. If there is, readjust the push rods and set preload at .125"
Just for ***** and giggles, a compression test will verify if the cam timing is correct. There have been many posters here that swear the timing marks on the inner sprockets were correctly aligned but a compression check tells a different story. If cam timing is off that could explain the rough idle.
If pushrods spin, no vertical movement detected and cam timing checks out, start if up and let it rattle; the noise should diminish. Whether you wait for the new tune or not is up to you but the new tune is not going to resolve the valve train noise; you can solve that problem now. Good luck.:
Pretty sure no damage has been done and based on the information you have provided, check for a loose pushrod as Lonewolf has suggested. Set each cylinder at TDC on the compression stroke, open the push rod tubes and see if you can spin the push rods and if there is any vertical movement. If there is, readjust the push rods and set preload at .125"
Just for ***** and giggles, a compression test will verify if the cam timing is correct. There have been many posters here that swear the timing marks on the inner sprockets were correctly aligned but a compression check tells a different story. If cam timing is off that could explain the rough idle.
If pushrods spin, no vertical movement detected and cam timing checks out, start if up and let it rattle; the noise should diminish. Whether you wait for the new tune or not is up to you but the new tune is not going to resolve the valve train noise; you can solve that problem now. Good luck.
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Your bike, your call but you could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire and giving up on the opportunity to learn. Good luck and let us know how things work out.
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Lol, im torn, after all the initial work I did, I feel I need to try the adjustment one more time. I kinda feel like I would be giving up, then again, I dont want to mess anything up further 🤔
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Please don’t go out and run your starter for 2 minutes!! All that will do is burn up your starter. It needs to be ridden for 5 or 10 miles to pump up the lifters. They may pump up before then. Just check for loose pushrods on each cylinder when the respective cylinder is at TDC. JMHO
