I have the jugs off now anyone try this method? " Don’t use water as suggested but get some diesel fuel oil. Fill the crankcase up halfway, hold engine well and agitate the mix, with a long thin artists type paint brush have a stir around as far as you can. Get a bucket and stretch a piece of cloth over the bucket, secure with string or elastic strap. Invert the engine over the bucket and allow all the diesel fuel to drain out. Look at the cloth strainer, if there’s no needle roller then get a thin magnetic screwdriver or just a thin magnet...thin enough to slip inside the crankcase recess. Test the strength of the magnet for its ability to grab hold of a piece of steel approx the same weight as a needle roller or slightly heavier. Have a dangle about inside the crankcase. I suspect that if you have dropped the needle roller inside then it might be stuck in one of the main bearings, this might well be on the flywheel rotor side as the strong magnetic field may be reaching into the crankcase and holding the needle roller to the inside. I do hope you have success but also, having noted your intention it looks like you want to use the old needle roller assembly.....please get a new roller bearing as with the work already done it makes sense. There are plenty of sources available to supply on the net.??S..t happens....I lost a clutch pressure spring when I dismantled the assembly, I hunted around in my workshop for hours (I like to think that my workshop is clean and tidy but inevitably you end up with ‘stuff’ stored about) I gave up and ordered new set...no bad thing anyway but annoying as the damned thing is in there somewhere...guess what? Having attempted to work out the trajectory of a small spring on take off and the potential ricochet effect off other surfaces without success I found said missing spring hiding one of the rungs inside my aluminium ladder ?Never mind new springs proved under compression test back to back that the original were indeed weak. ?"

 

Filling an engine with solvent and dancing around with it is ridiculous.

If the engine is out of the frame, just split the cases, at this point the engine is way past the short cut phase.

It is just nuts and bolts, not rocket science.


No, the cam bearing is not isolated, the cam bearing boss opens to the crankcase, just like every other big twin.

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Don't be ridiculous.. Split the cases...

 

As said, do it once for the price of gaskets, or do it a second time for the price of a lot of new parts.

 

Put a hose clamp on the end of the collet.push it thru remove hose clamp
and that's it.

 

What?

 

That is what you need to do when the tool is a POS, and doesn`t fit properly.

 

Thanks Dan. Didn't realize he was talking about closing the fingers on the collet

 

The inner cam bearing is not isolated to the cam chest on a ‘24. It the inner cam bearing break it can fall in the oil sump where the flywheel is at.