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Old Aug 14, 2025 | 01:56 AM
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Hello, Dyna 2006, 98 ci, Andrews 26 here.

Since several years I have had a clattering noise coming from the left side at load. I have been thinking primary, but now I believe it is valve train noise.

When doing the big bore two years ago I discovered witness marks on the rocker assembley bolts, took some shots of them, then forgot about it.

Anyway, now l am pretty sure it is the rocker arms making this disturbing noise, (rotating back and forth against the bolts), and I will install rocker arm lockers this winter.

My question is: Can this gap affect performance and cause other troubles?

Thanks in advance.

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P. S. Don’t think it is pinging - no knockcounts and this happens all the time at all engine temperatures. And don’t think it is from the primary - 0.0028” runout measured on the compensator bolt, new SE Compensator and new primary chain tensioner (upgraded C-version).
 

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Old Aug 14, 2025 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by OakMountainRider
My question is: Can this gap affect performance and cause other troubles
No.
 

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no performance issues would come from it. Get a cheap stethoscope and find exactly where the noise is coming from. Could be the rockers, could be the rods touching the tubes, could be a few things. Sounds tend to bounce around
 
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no performance issues would come from it. Get a cheap stethoscope and find exactly where the noise is coming from. Could be the rockers, could be the rods touching the tubes, could be a few things. Sounds tend to bounce around
Thanks for your reply. Yes, just received a stethoscope for recording. And will do a couple of recordings.


 
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Ok, good to hear 🙏
 
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Just did two recordings with an electronic stethoscope to my Iphone. However it was just a lot of noice as the soundtracks were completely overloaded. I think I need an app where I can control the recording volume, because now it is too distorted. Anyone here who has done this with an Iphone?

Just found the app Voice Record with gain control. Will make another try.
 

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What do you hear? Still noisy?
 
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An electric stethoscope? WTF haha never heard of such a thing. Below is what I was referring to. You touch the end of the probe in different areas to isolate where the noise is coming from, usually where its the loudest and/or the tapping is the hardest.

https://www.harborfreight.com/mechan...ope-63691.html
 
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A long screwdriver works just fine
 
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Originally Posted by Jake707
An electric stethoscope? WTF haha never heard of such a thing. Below is what I was referring to. You touch the end of the probe in different areas to isolate where the noise is coming from, usually where its the loudest and/or the tapping is the hardest.

https://www.harborfreight.com/mechan...ope-63691.html
I already have this type of stethoscope. As I have written above the noise is only audible at load, which means I can only hear it when riding the bike, and trying to use this stethoscope while riding, (in traffic without a helmet), would put my life and others in danger.

So this is why I intend to use an electronic stethoscope, which I can tape on the rocker boxes with duct tape and then record the sound on my Iphone. If it will work I do not know yet, as the stethoscope is made for heart and lung sounds.

I will come back in this thread and report how it goes.
 

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