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Old Aug 17, 2025 | 05:14 PM
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I have a twin cam from a 02 nigh train, and I need to replace the front piston. My question is about the connecting rods. Should there be play/movement in the rods at the crankshaft? Its hard to explain.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2025 | 06:19 PM
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I have a twin cam from a 02 nigh train, and I need to replace the front piston. My question is about the connecting rods. Should there be play/movement in the rods at the crankshaft? Its hard to explain.
Side to side, yes. Up and down, No.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2025 | 07:51 PM
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The side play is 0.005-0.015.

The rod to crank pin is 0.0004-0.0017. You not going to be able to fill that. One may be able to see it with a dial indicator but just a small amount not coming straight at the indicator reading off the end is going to move the needle.

Check it for smoothness by pulling up and moving rod fwd and back thru the cylinder opening.

Be sure to inspect the cylinder and make sure it's OK , remove the ridge ring and check it for taper and has enough to break the glaze for the new rings to seat.

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Old Aug 17, 2025 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie Paper
The side play is 0.005-0.015.

The rod to crank pin is 0.0004-0.0017. You not going to be able to fill that. One may be able to see it with a dial indicator but just a small amount not coming straight at the indicator reading off the end is going to move the needle.

Check it for smoothness by pulling up and moving rod fwd and back thru the cylinder opening.

Be sure to inspect the cylinder and make sure it's OK , remove the ridge ring and check it for taper and has enough to break the glaze for the new rings to seat.

PS.. stick around and let us know how it goes.

And for sure, welcome to the HDFORUM.
While the rod side play at the bearing could be 0.005 to 0.015, the shake at the small end typically be as high as 3/32" on the front rod.. Rear will be considerably less. You need to stop using AI and add in a little experience.

BTW 0 at the front small end is another thing to be concerned about..
 
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Old Aug 18, 2025 | 08:42 AM
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at one time hd used to have a side shake procedure in the FSM. that is gone so the only measurement is the big end clearance between rod and flywheel. the FSM says no up/down movement that is detectable unless of course you have instruments capable of the ten thousandths range.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2025 | 09:58 AM
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Crow, not sure what Max is refering to with the 3/32
Maybe an angular side to side movements of the rod end of 3/32".

I would not be concerned with that if that's what you are refering to in your first post.

My info didn't come from AI.

It came out of a OEM Service manual.



My experience lies in 46 years in and around the machine shop and 59 years working on car, bike, boat and small engines as a hobby.

I still own a small machine shop.

My old indicators that still serve what I need. That one in top left was my Grandfather's. It's retired.





 
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Old Aug 18, 2025 | 01:45 PM
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So Jackie, what kind of work did you do at your machine shop? Small job shop stuff? Equipment repair? Short production runs?
 
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oops!!
not ten thousandths but 10 one hundred thousandths.
i used to have a digital unit but it took a dump. mechanical units are a bit tricky, i have one that i use to zero my vise on the mill table that can read below .001 but you really need a smooth and did i say smooth surface.
hd really tighten up things when the evo can out. the only thing hd has not done is precision cast, but then again, sand cast is cheaper and recyclable.
really not that much hand fit anymore as with the bolted taper crank pins, that improvement probably saved a bunch of flywheels since they were like glass and cracked easily.
 
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Post 5 is correct.

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