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Dyna 06, 98 ci, Andrews 57 (new), new stock springs, seals and exhaust valves, even and measured spring pressures: 135/315 lbs, Rocker Lockers, S&S Quickees and S&S precision lifters only 4 years old and 15000 miles but went through a pretty tough big bore break in 3 years ago).
Issue: Ticking at all rpm, pretty loud. Also, at one occasion, after sitting 10 minutes with hot engine and warm oil, terribly loud ticking after startup. Then after 100 meters bang! And it was back to normalagain.
First I thought most of the ticking noise came from the rear cylinder, so I put it in TDCC and checked if there were any lash in the pushrods. No. So I started the bike and let it idle 5 minutes. Ticking was loud as usual, but where did it come from? Fetched my stethoscope and found the spot on the front head, close to the exhaust port.
Then I put the front cylinder in TDCC, and there was no lash. Well, so I lowered the exhaust rod 4 flats and intake 3 flats.
At the test ride it was still ticking, but the most annoying was gone, and there was no lifter collapse.
So tomorrow I will give the rear cylinder 3-4 flats as well and take her for a ride.
Anyhow, I need new lifters and been thinking of Hylift-Johnson B2313SE.
Considering my setup, described above, is this a good choice?
Thanks a lot
Oak Mountain Rider
Last edited by OakMountainRider; Apr 10, 2026 at 03:35 PM.
I would expect that you you mean "lowered a pushrod", you meant you increased it's length and set the plunger a little deeper.. Not sure that helps with startup rattle.. Does help the higher R and idle rattles a little.. Yeah toss in a set of hi-lifts..
I would expect that you you mean "lowered a pushrod", you meant you increased it's length and set the plunger a little deeper.. Not sure that helps with startup rattle.. Does help the higher R and idle rattles a little.. Yeah toss in a set of hi-lifts..
Yes, I meant making the pushrods longer. Not sure how much it has helped, though. It was still ticking at the startup I just did, Also, and I did not mention this, I do not have the right cold startup idle. It is ticking and rattling and fighting for its life at 900 rpm the first minutes. I replaced the IAC today, no change. Fuel Pressure is 58 psi. At the first upstart, 2 weeks ago, after rebuild and with hand pumped lifters, the startup idle was perfect the first 10 seconds, then suddenly it collapsed down to 900 rpm. Bad idling at cold startup was also a problem last year with Andrews 26. I suspect the lifters; that they do not open the valves fully so that the cylinders do not get air enough. Plugs are black after an upstart.
Update: Just came in from a ride, and the ticking is a bit less. So I would say those 3-4 flats helped some, especially when the engine has reached normal working temperature. There are fine tuning remaining though. But will wait with that until the new lifters are installed.
Last edited by OakMountainRider; Apr 12, 2026 at 12:34 PM.
Hello, I did not buy from Larry's, (maybe I should), as I figured he did not ship to Europe and went with Ebay as it works fine with the custom here. (The Ebay-seller I used is rated to 99.6 %.)
To begin with, I contacted the Hylift-Johnson distributor (Topline) to get thorough instructions and a confirmation that they knew the seller. They answered immediately and gave very detailed instructions and excellent support. They also said they sold a lot through the Ebay seller.
Well, so I ordered, and after 3 weeks the package arrived, (after I had paid custom taxes). As soon as I received the package and held it in my hands, I realized something was wrong. I could literally hear the lifters rolling freely inside the package. Upon opening the box it looked like this: The lifters were out of their package, as well as they were out of their plastic bags.
From the transport, during which the lifters freely had bumped against each other, there were dust on them, as well as visible scratches and dents, but above all; upon pressing the rollers with my thumb and moving them back and forth, there was gritty feeling. When I tested with my old stock Harley lifters from 2006 I felt their roller spin 100 % smooth. Very disappointed I have started a return and refund process on Ebay and will send the lifters back.
Prior to starting the return request, I contacted the seller, who told me to return the lifters and asked to order again.
To me it is not understandable how someone could pack such a vital and important engine part so badly that it gets destroyed.
Now I think I may go with Fueling HP+, maybe not so good lifter as Hylift, but recommended by an indy dealer here in Sweden upon being informed about my set up and my issues.
Does anyone here have an experience from the Fueling HP+ lifters?
I wouldn’t be so quick to pass judgement on the seller. That package looks so badly damaged it makes me wonder if it went to the wrong address first and was opened there first before being redirected. Idk
i currently run the feuling lifters without issue.
I wouldnt be so quick to pass judgement on the seller. That package looks so badly damaged it makes me wonder if it went to the wrong address first and was opened there first before being redirected. Idk
i currently run the feuling lifters without issue.
It could be that someone had opened it, but there are no indications of wrong address in the tracking history.
You are right though, I should not pass any judgements, just conclude facts. But someone has packed the lifters and that person did not know what he or she was doing.
The tracking story is quite complex within the US. The origin is not from the state where the seller is.
There is another thing. The rollers had an axial play, touching the lifter bodies at the sides, thus creating friction. Wether this would have had any effect on the function I do not know, but my Harley lifters are not doing this and I am actually happy now that the lifters were so badly packed, making me observant so I discovered this.
Worth mentioning: There are visible differences between Hylift-Johnson B2313 and 2313 which Larry sells: The oil holes are 90 degrees a part and the B2313 has a larger area for collecting the oil.
These are my observations. I am neither accusing nor judging anyone.
Great that your Fueling lifters work for you. My HP+ arrived yesterday, well packed and with thorough instructions.
Last edited by OakMountainRider; Today at 01:33 AM.
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