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I have 2014 WG with a basic Stage 1. Originally was just looking to put a SE204 CAM in with SE perfect fit pushrods, SEST & standard bearings to replace; however, I'm starting to think I need to take it further. Im not looking to increase displacement, just dont want to take it that far for multiple reasons, but $$ being one. Ill stick w/the 103 although I want to get more out of it. Looking at the SE Pro Stage IV or some derivative. I prefer to do the work myself, but having some seconds thoughts due to information overload & not really knowing who to stake my build on.
For example:
1) What about putting some advance on the 259e to bring it on earlier?
2) Possibly substitute 259e for a 254e?
3) substitute flat top pistons for the 10.5 CR pistons .030 head gasket & install a 204 w/ 1.7 ratio rockers?
Im looking for a street performer that runs on pump gas. I'm about 99% convinced to stay with SE parts (CAM/Heads/pistons/SEST) etc. to get it done.
Guess I'm looking for recommendations of performance shops & Dyno operators & who might be willing to help me work through this?
Also, Im in the middle of bfe in NW Montana which is also a challenge. I have heard of Faribault in Minnesota, but again that is like 1500 miles away & it wouldn't have to be HD Moco.
I have 2014 WG with a basic Stage 1. Originally was just looking to put a SE204 CAM in with SE perfect fit pushrods, SEST & standard bearings to replace; however, I'm starting to think I need to take it further. Im not looking to increase displacement, just dont want to take it that far for multiple reasons, but $$ being one. Ill stick w/the 103 although I want to get more out of it. Looking at the SE Pro Stage IV or some derivative. I prefer to do the work myself, but having some seconds thoughts due to information overload & not really knowing who to stake my build on.
For example:
1) What about putting some advance on the 259e to bring it on earlier?
2) Possibly substitute 259e for a 254e?
3) substitute flat top pistons for the 10.5 CR pistons .030 head gasket & install a 204 w/ 1.7 ratio rockers?
Im looking for a street performer that runs on pump gas. I'm about 99% convinced to stay with SE parts (CAM/Heads/pistons/SEST) etc. to get it done.
Guess I'm looking for recommendations of performance shops & Dyno operators & who might be willing to help me work through this?
Also, Im in the middle of bfe in NW Montana which is also a challenge. I have heard of Faribault in Minnesota, but again that is like 1500 miles away & it wouldn't have to be HD Moco.
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Brief Description:
I have 2014 WG with a basic Stage 1. Originally was just looking to put a SE204 CAM in with SE perfect fit pushrods, SEST & standard bearings to replace; however, I'm starting to think I need to take it further. Im not looking to increase displacement, just dont want to take it that far for multiple reasons, but $$ being one. Ill stick w/the 103 although I want to get more out of it. Looking at the SE Pro Stage IV or some derivative. I prefer to do the work myself, but having some seconds thoughts due to information overload & not really knowing who to stake my build on.
For example:
1) What about putting some advance on the 259e to bring it on earlier?
2) Possibly substitute 259e for a 254e?
3) substitute flat top pistons for the 10.5 CR pistons .030 head gasket & install a 204 w/ 1.7 ratio rockers?
Im looking for a street performer that runs on pump gas. I'm about 99% convinced to stay with SE parts (CAM/Heads/pistons/SEST) etc. to get it done.
Guess I'm looking for recommendations of performance shops & Dyno operators & who might be willing to help me work through this?
Also, Im in the middle of bfe in NW Montana which is also a challenge. I have heard of Faribault in Minnesota, but again that is like 1500 miles away & it wouldn't have to be HD Moco.
I have 2014 WG with a basic Stage 1. Originally was just looking to put a SE204 CAM in with SE perfect fit pushrods, SEST & standard bearings to replace; however, I'm starting to think I need to take it further. Im not looking to increase displacement, just dont want to take it that far for multiple reasons, but $$ being one. Ill stick w/the 103 although I want to get more out of it. Looking at the SE Pro Stage IV or some derivative. I prefer to do the work myself, but having some seconds thoughts due to information overload & not really knowing who to stake my build on.
For example:
1) What about putting some advance on the 259e to bring it on earlier?
2) Possibly substitute 259e for a 254e?
3) substitute flat top pistons for the 10.5 CR pistons .030 head gasket & install a 204 w/ 1.7 ratio rockers?
Im looking for a street performer that runs on pump gas. I'm about 99% convinced to stay with SE parts (CAM/Heads/pistons/SEST) etc. to get it done.
Guess I'm looking for recommendations of performance shops & Dyno operators & who might be willing to help me work through this?
Also, Im in the middle of bfe in NW Montana which is also a challenge. I have heard of Faribault in Minnesota, but again that is like 1500 miles away & it wouldn't have to be HD Moco.
The 204 will work fine as well as the 254, even the Andrews 37 for what you are trying to do. All three of the above cams give great bottom end torque and will keep pumping out decent torque up to around 4500 to 4800 RPM's.
In my opinion what will make or break your mods will be the tune. Since you are so far away from everyone why not chose a better flash tuner. Would highly recommend the TTS. Do the tune yourself.
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I'm struggling/considering that as well. So one of the reasons I was looking at the SEST was for how close I could come with SE parts & then the auto tune. From your link it looks like TTS made SERT? I didnt realize that, & have read a fair amount about SERT. Ill certainly look into it, my bias is to stick to parts that are meant to /and designed to go together. Chances are there has been more bikes with that configuration & just more testing overall.
I want to avoid dumping this kind of $$ and not being happy or having some type of issues. If I can tweak/tune the exact build here or there within those constraints (to get more out of it for my bike/ride style) is another part of what I'm after; which is why I'm considering a shop. (not local HD dealer)
I want to avoid dumping this kind of $$ and not being happy or having some type of issues. If I can tweak/tune the exact build here or there within those constraints (to get more out of it for my bike/ride style) is another part of what I'm after; which is why I'm considering a shop. (not local HD dealer)
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I'm struggling/considering that as well. So one of the reasons I was looking at the SEST was for how close I could come with SE parts & then the auto tune. From your link it looks like TTS made SERT? I didnt realize that, & have read a fair amount about SERT. Ill certainly look into it, my bias is to stick to parts that are meant to /and designed to go together. Chances are there has been more bikes with that configuration & just more testing overall.
I want to avoid dumping this kind of $$ and not being happy or having some type of issues. If I can tweak/tune the exact build here or there within those constraints (to get more out of it for my bike/ride style) is another part of what I'm after; which is why I'm considering a shop. (not local HD dealer)
I want to avoid dumping this kind of $$ and not being happy or having some type of issues. If I can tweak/tune the exact build here or there within those constraints (to get more out of it for my bike/ride style) is another part of what I'm after; which is why I'm considering a shop. (not local HD dealer)
Yes, TTS built the first SERT. They are the Original HD tuning device company.
You can download the TTS software from their site. You can see what calibration fits what bike in their calibration PDF. No two bikes are alike, each breathes differently so you will need to start out with a close calibration and match it to your bike. The TTS allows you to tune the calibration to your cam. The SEPro tuner does not. TTS has EGR tables to help your bike run smoother, SEPro does not. I can keep this up all day but it's for you to decide, not me.
The pricing is lower on the TTS than the SEPro if you compare retail. We have sponsors here who can give you better pricing than retail. With any tuning device you purchase... don't forget the cable kit.
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Brief Description:
I have 2014 WG with a basic Stage 1. Originally was just looking to put a SE204 CAM in with SE perfect fit pushrods, SEST & standard bearings to replace; however, I'm starting to think I need to take it further. Im not looking to increase displacement, just dont want to take it that far for multiple reasons, but $$ being one. Ill stick w/the 103 although I want to get more out of it. Looking at the SE Pro Stage IV or some derivative. I prefer to do the work myself, but having some seconds thoughts due to information overload & not really knowing who to stake my build on.
For example:
1) What about putting some advance on the 259e to bring it on earlier?
2) Possibly substitute 259e for a 254e?
3) substitute flat top pistons for the 10.5 CR pistons .030 head gasket & install a 204 w/ 1.7 ratio rockers?
Im looking for a street performer that runs on pump gas. I'm about 99% convinced to stay with SE parts (CAM/Heads/pistons/SEST) etc. to get it done.
Guess I'm looking for recommendations of performance shops & Dyno operators & who might be willing to help me work through this?
Also, Im in the middle of bfe in NW Montana which is also a challenge. I have heard of Faribault in Minnesota, but again that is like 1500 miles away & it wouldn't have to be HD Moco.
I have 2014 WG with a basic Stage 1. Originally was just looking to put a SE204 CAM in with SE perfect fit pushrods, SEST & standard bearings to replace; however, I'm starting to think I need to take it further. Im not looking to increase displacement, just dont want to take it that far for multiple reasons, but $$ being one. Ill stick w/the 103 although I want to get more out of it. Looking at the SE Pro Stage IV or some derivative. I prefer to do the work myself, but having some seconds thoughts due to information overload & not really knowing who to stake my build on.
For example:
1) What about putting some advance on the 259e to bring it on earlier?
2) Possibly substitute 259e for a 254e?
3) substitute flat top pistons for the 10.5 CR pistons .030 head gasket & install a 204 w/ 1.7 ratio rockers?
Im looking for a street performer that runs on pump gas. I'm about 99% convinced to stay with SE parts (CAM/Heads/pistons/SEST) etc. to get it done.
Guess I'm looking for recommendations of performance shops & Dyno operators & who might be willing to help me work through this?
Also, Im in the middle of bfe in NW Montana which is also a challenge. I have heard of Faribault in Minnesota, but again that is like 1500 miles away & it wouldn't have to be HD Moco.
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