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I'd be more curious as to what you would take for it in a sale?
I have a 94 Ultra with a 113" or a 96" motor in it. Six speed Jim's gear set in it. Running either a SuperTrapp 2:1 SuperMegs or a V&H Pro-pipe on it. Stock tins and paint. Mustang seat. Saddle bag chrome rails and Glow-rails inside of them. Chrome front end with Progressive heavy springs up front and 440's on the rear. Chain final drive.
113" puts out 130 ponies and the 96" shows to do 104.
What's it worth and what would one have to spend to get one up to this speed performance wise if starting over?
I wouldn't take 10k for it myself. So I guess I better like it.. LOL..
Griz
I hear ya! I have right at 15K in mine and did all the work myself., including buying it. Wouldn't sell it for 15K that's for sure!
I have full coverage on my 89 FLHTC and my insurance valued it at $6500.00. I did a stated value policy for $10,000.00 for about $5.00 more per month. Heck, the Iron Bags were $1300.00 themselves. If i add everything up thats been added or customized, it would take $10K to replace it. In the event of theft or, God forbid, having your bike totaled, its best to pay a little more for extra insurance if you need too. You can also have a customized bike appraised and submit that to your insurance for a quote. Its good to shop around for insurance too as the rates are all over the map. State Farm was the same price for me for full coverage as another company was for liability only.
If you're buying, use NADA (they're lower). If you're selling, use KBB (they're higher). There are some decent EVOs going for as low as $5000 around here, but super pristine nice ones go anywhere from $7-10, mostly $7500.
I believe most manufacturers (automobile, motorcycle) report horsepower numbers via an engine dyno. Why is this worthless? Can you name a mainstream car or motorcycle manufacturer that reports rear wheel horsepower? I can't think of any.
Originally Posted by texashillcountry
I wonder if they are getting their numbers from the flywheel instead of the rear wheel.
If so their numbers are worthless.
I believe most manufacturers (automobile, motorcycle) report horsepower numbers via an engine dyno. Why is this worthless? Can you name a mainstream car or motorcycle manufacturer that reports rear wheel horsepower? I can't think of any.
Because they are just inflated numbers that make them sound good.
What matters on any vehicle is rear wheel horsepower.
To be honest every industry inflates the numbers of the output of their devices.
That's how they suck in the gullible.
The important numbers are the ones about use able power.
I believe most manufacturers (automobile, motorcycle) report horsepower numbers via an engine dyno. Why is this worthless? Can you name a mainstream car or motorcycle manufacturer that reports rear wheel horsepower? I can't think of any.
Originally Posted by texashillcountry
Because they are just inflated numbers that make them sound good.
What matters on any vehicle is rear wheel horsepower.
To be honest every industry inflates the numbers of the output of their devices.
That's how they suck in the gullible.
The important numbers are the ones about use able power.
Have you considered the possibility that rating an engine at the output shaft is the proper and scientific way of doing it? However, as illustrated in your post above, the work performed at the engine shaft does not take into account all of the power consumed in the drivetrain while trying to get the power to the ground so to speak. Two machines with identical engines can have quite a difference in power available at the rear wheels. Engines have to be rated for HP and torque at the output shaft but machines/vehicles should be rated where the useful work is performed to get a good idea of their efficiency and how much power there truly is to do what has to be done, in this case, moving the vehicle forward.
HP numbers are really nothing more than dick size contests anyway. Seems to me than on an HD, what you are looking for is a nice, flat load of torque from around 2300 to around 3700.
If you're putting out a nice, smooth 85 ft-lb of torque at 2300 RPM, that's only a "paltry" 40 HP. At 3700 RPM, it only goes up to 60 HP.
Have you considered the possibility that rating an engine at the output shaft is the proper and scientific way of doing it? However, as illustrated in your post above, the work performed at the engine shaft does not take into account all of the power consumed in the drivetrain while trying to get the power to the ground so to speak. Two machines with identical engines can have quite a difference in power available at the rear wheels. Engines have to be rated for HP and torque at the output shaft but machines/vehicles should be rated where the useful work is performed to get a good idea of their efficiency and how much power there truly is to do what has to be done, in this case, moving the vehicle forward.
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