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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 04:52 PM
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While researching my impending lifter change, I found that the lifter block gaskets come in different thicknesses (.020, .031). Why is that?
 
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Fixed pushrods? It doesn't make sense to me unless your changing the base/head gaskets and using OE pushrods.

You have an evo? Gasket thickness would depend on the above factors that I noted, on twincams the lifters are in the lower end, not lifter blocks.
So if you change the head gasket .010 thinner you need to bring the blocks down the same amount if you are using the original pushrods to keep proper lash adjustment. With a set of decent set of adjustable pushrods it wouldn't make a difference.

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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 05:15 PM
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Can't see how it would matter, other than general preference/philosophy on getting a good seal. Any variation in the gasket thickness will be automatically compensated for by the spring in the pushrod covers.
 
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Can't see how it would matter, other than general preference/philosophy on getting a good seal. Any variation in the gasket thickness will be automatically compensated for by the spring in the pushrod covers.
Don't the lifters sit in the lifter blocks on an evo? If so would the height of the block/lifter assembly factor into the lash adjustment?
 
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I see that James offers fiber and paper gaskets too. Maybe the fiber gaskets are different thicknesses.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JustDave13
Don't the lifters sit in the lifter blocks on an evo? If so would the height of the block/lifter assembly factor into the lash adjustment?
Lifter rides on the cam. Block is a guide to keep it centered, just like in your twin cam. Your guides are just built into the cam chest and get nice chrome covers.
 
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Originally Posted by Owtlaw
Lifter rides on the cam. Block is a guide to keep it centered, just like in your twin cam. Your guides are just built into the cam chest and get nice chrome covers.
Got it, I was under the impression that the block actually held the lifter.

Which brings back the question...Why different thicknesses?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JustDave13
Don't the lifters sit in the lifter blocks on an evo? If so would the height of the block/lifter assembly factor into the lash adjustment?
It doesn't change any of that. The only reason I can see to use thicker than stock gaskets is with a high lift cam with a larger than stock base-circle, or to get a better seal.
 
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Originally Posted by zero-E
It doesn't change any of that. The only reason I can see to use thicker than stock gaskets is with a high lift cam with a larger than stock base-circle, or to get a better seal.
I get it, this way the cam doesn't push the lifter up to far making it hit the block. Now that makes sense.
 
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Originally Posted by JustDave13
I get it, this way the cam doesn't push the lifter up to far making it hit the block. Now that makes sense.
The risk is that the cam hits the lifter block, or that the roller on the lifter bottoms out on the slot in the lifter block.

Relying on a thicker gasket to address that is (to put it mildly) not a good practice. When installing such a cam, you either need to clearance the lifter block, or buy new ones set up for that application.
 
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