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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 08:04 PM
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Hey gents,ok so I get enough ***** to try my cylinder base gasket replacement everything went ok except head gaskets with o rings? book say to put them on ... gasket set is a james set JGI-17033-92, put 2 small grey ones on and they were real tight. That should have told me to stop.long story short is bike is blowing air out of head gasket area .Do I need to put those small O-rings on? And why did they come with set? And do you thing I can take them out and use gaskets again? Bike hasn't started. Feel like a fool? Thanks foir info ON other head o rings were little larger
 
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I know the replacement gaskets from the MoCo specifically say "don't use o rings". What did your James gaskets say?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 08:27 PM
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nothing just had torque sequence for heads
 
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 08:30 PM
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funny they had two smaller grey ones and two little larger ones..now I see I should have stopped and dug in a little....Why not send a little paper saying what the hell the pieces are for?
 
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maybe one little oring and one larger per head?
 
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Maybe dump the James gaskets and go Cometic you'll be better off, James stuff ain't what it used to be.
 
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Wish I could be more help. Hopefully someone with experience with that specific set will be along soon. Otherwise, I'd call James in the morning and see what they say.
 
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Yes I sent them a email already.. thinkin I shouldn't have put them in, any ways thanks and I get cometic for next try
 
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I installed James gaskets in my1986,all the o-rings were the same size, and they are there for perfect alignment of the head gasket, at least in my case. Head gaskets without o-rings should have smaller holes for the head bolts for alignment.
Maybe they are not aligned or they were torqued wrong, very small increments in the correct pattern is important.
 

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Originally Posted by shankman
Hey gents,ok so I get enough ***** to try my cylinder base gasket replacement everything went ok except head gaskets with o rings? book say to put them on ... gasket set is a james set JGI-17033-92, put 2 small grey ones on and they were real tight. That should have told me to stop.long story short is bike is blowing air out of head gasket area .Do I need to put those small O-rings on? And why did they come with set? And do you thing I can take them out and use gaskets again? Bike hasn't started. Feel like a fool? Thanks foir info ON other head o rings were little larger
First the o-rings won't stop a motor from sealing.
Personal experience with that one.
I have used both James and Cometic metal gaskets and they both worked fine.
You're gonna need to get new head and base gaskets and I recommend Cometic MLS for the head and SLS for the base.
If you use those you don't need O-rings.

From what I have read most people who do this for a living say that the magic numbers for head and base gaskets are 20 thou base and 30 thou head.

As mentioned earlier I think the motor isn't sealing because of improper head tightening.

Follow the directions on your instruction sheet not the book!
 
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