EVO All Evo Model Discussion

WEGO 3 installation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 19, 2017 | 07:38 PM
  #71  
jcsurf's Avatar
jcsurf
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 298
Likes: 12
From: Villa Rica, Georgia
Default

I'll hang in there but I'm thinking about getting rid of the mikuni and get a s&s super e carb
 
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2017 | 09:11 PM
  #72  
98hotrodfatboy's Avatar
98hotrodfatboy
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 21,092
Likes: 7,615
From: Poolville
Default

Couple of question.....

What is the head pipe diameter of the Fatcat pipes.? If they are 2" head pipes that might be part of the problem with tuning.....

Do you have an O2 bung on the front cylinder? If so put the sensor there to monitor the front cylinder. By what I've heard you get the most consistent readings by using the front cylinder......
 
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2017 | 09:40 PM
  #73  
LowriderHarold's Avatar
LowriderHarold
Road Captain
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 625
Likes: 102
From: New Albany, Ms.
Default

Originally Posted by 1997bagger
Hang in there, I got your runs to cross into my older software with time scale, showing a copy of a spreaded out run you posted, will work on getting your last run into that format.

You can also tune it by watching the Wego digital screen live, that is how I tune them.
I understand now, why the older version, like you are using, the graphs are easier to read.
With the old version, You can set it as as low as a 15 second segment of the graph.
The newer only lets you go to 45 seconds a segment.
Big difference. Wish it was still like the old.

Ride Safe,
Harold
 
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2017 | 09:47 PM
  #74  
jcsurf's Avatar
jcsurf
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 298
Likes: 12
From: Villa Rica, Georgia
Default

I got the o2 sensor in the rear headpipe and the diameter is 1 3/4.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 02:33 PM
  #75  
IBDAGRIZ's Avatar
IBDAGRIZ
Road Master
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,054
Likes: 441
From: Tejas
Default

Conventional wisdom says to use the front cylinder for tuning as the rear will always be richer. I use the front one on mine also.

Griz
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 03:18 PM
  #76  
jcsurf's Avatar
jcsurf
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 298
Likes: 12
From: Villa Rica, Georgia
Default

Will change to the front cylinder and retest.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 04:29 PM
  #77  
98hotrodfatboy's Avatar
98hotrodfatboy
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 21,092
Likes: 7,615
From: Poolville
Default

Do yourself a favor and don't get discouraged. It is not an easy task to tune with the Wego. It takes a lot of patience and time.. You'll get there though.... None of us are experts but we are experienced...... Remember, Life is a learning curve....
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 05:12 PM
  #78  
jcsurf's Avatar
jcsurf
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 298
Likes: 12
From: Villa Rica, Georgia
Default

I hear ya and I appreciate the encouraging word. I'm ready to get this thing right!!
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 07:18 PM
  #79  
1997bagger's Avatar
1997bagger
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,079
Likes: 2,151
From: Ohio
Default

Hotrod is correct on the erratic graph, that Fatcat is allowing a lot of air to come backwards by reversion when slowing down or letting off the throttle, noticed the bad spikes on rpm drops but it is common to see 16-1 or 18.1 using the engine to slow down.

Went over the last run spread out on my software, idle is good, cruise is good and wot is perfect, noticed lower rpms are in the 12.8. You only need 3 areas of tuning with the Wego with cruise for fuel mileage, wot for power and safety from detonation, idle for to prevent engine heat. Low rpms isn't as important because it is hard to get right because the accellerator pump is usually in play. I'll use the digital read out to tune the 3 main areas and might use a graph on a wot run if running deeper in rpm's with higher gears.

As Harold found out, don't overthink this tuning with a carb, it is a controlled drip, not a precise EFI that can change AFR's by .01 at a time.


The 4th graph is the only one that is off rich but on accelleration and most likely the pump hasn't cleaned up yet, that is why lower rpms are hard to do and a throttle roll on is impossible unless you turn the pump off
 

Last edited by 1997bagger; Jan 26, 2019 at 11:55 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 07:31 PM
  #80  
jcsurf's Avatar
jcsurf
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 298
Likes: 12
From: Villa Rica, Georgia
Default

If you guys think my fatcat is causing the reversion what do you think of an rb racing pro stock 2-1? I have one here that used to be on it. I replaced it because it was L.A.F., sounded real nice just very loud. Not too bad riding around but on the highway its like having a nascar next to you. I have a baffle for it that rb sells, it does take a little of the edge off but still loud. They claim their collector design keeps reversion down and improves scavenging. It has an o2 sensor port in the front pipe and it 1 3/4 inch diameter. I could change it out in no time, let me know what you think.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:01 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE