4 speed inner primary bearing
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From: alberta canada
4 speed inner primary bearing
Hey guys, I have a 85 dyna wide glide with a 4 speed, Im tying to get the inner primary bearing race off the tapered shaft and it is being a POS . I've heated it up and wacked it and nothing is moving so I think I am going to have to cut it off. no once I get that off do you guys recommend the aftermarket sealed bearing? I've read that some don't work with the tapered shaft, how does a guy know. Help please, first project bike.
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From: la la land jerzey
with the sealed bearing go for the usa - japon - german SKF - sort of unit - in my shop we carefully remove the plastic shield clean it complete and dry the bearing, then use a real wheel bearing grease - i like the 2 guys garage green grease until you use it no one can explain why ) do it every 5000 miles on a you own the bike , its not a biggy in the off season
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First.. welcome from Connecticut.
Second.. your bike is not a Dyna, they came out in 92/93 ish..
Third.. John is one of the smartest guys here on the forums..
That being said, here is another option.. the race on the shaft is removed with a special tool that is also used to reinstall the new one (or old one). I have the same tranny and installed the Oem style bearing in the inner primary case and new seal, and a new race on the shaft.
Do you have a service manual? You should have one, and they have a pic of tools in the manual...
All has been well with mine and if I need to dig in there for what ever reasons, I would just replace the seal while I'm there.
What are you doing to the tranny? Why removing the race? Using a torch there will ruin the inner seal/o ring... hope this helps.. GW
Second.. your bike is not a Dyna, they came out in 92/93 ish..
Third.. John is one of the smartest guys here on the forums..
That being said, here is another option.. the race on the shaft is removed with a special tool that is also used to reinstall the new one (or old one). I have the same tranny and installed the Oem style bearing in the inner primary case and new seal, and a new race on the shaft.
Do you have a service manual? You should have one, and they have a pic of tools in the manual...
All has been well with mine and if I need to dig in there for what ever reasons, I would just replace the seal while I'm there.
What are you doing to the tranny? Why removing the race? Using a torch there will ruin the inner seal/o ring... hope this helps.. GW
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From: alberta canada
I had to replace the main seal on the tranny then I noticed that my inner race has a ring cut into it so I will replace that as well, I barrowed that tool from a buddy but we broke it. ( she is on good). And to order a new one in Canada is 150$ so I can just cut it off for a 3$ blade lol.
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Hey guys, I have a 85 dyna wide glide with a 4 speed, Im tying to get the inner primary bearing race off the tapered shaft and it is being a POS . I've heated it up and wacked it and nothing is moving so I think I am going to have to cut it off. no once I get that off do you guys recommend the aftermarket sealed bearing? I've read that some don't work with the tapered shaft, how does a guy know. Help please, first project bike.
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Try and use the press installer tool to put the race back on. I got lucky and tapped it on with a dead-blow hammer and section of 1" steel pipe. I know, I know that's not the best way 'cause you can damage the bearings, but i was willing to take that chance in lieu of paying a few hundred bucks for the removal\reinstall tool from J&P. That being said, some wrenches have used Loctite stud and sleeve retainer to make damn sure that race don't spin on the shaft. Mine was very tight going on so there shouldn't be an issue.
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Not to hijack this thread, but are some of you saying you can remove the OEM inner race from the mainshaft and replace the inner primary bearing with one that has an ID that matches the mainshaft, eliminating the OEM style inner bearing race?
If this is the case what is the bearing number/OD-ID?
If this is the case what is the bearing number/OD-ID?
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Not to hijack this thread, but are some of you saying you can remove the OEM inner race from the mainshaft and replace the inner primary bearing with one that has an ID that matches the mainshaft, eliminating the OEM style inner bearing race?
If this is the case what is the bearing number/OD-ID?
If this is the case what is the bearing number/OD-ID?
If you install the sealed bearing on the shaft snug like the Oem race, how could I possibly slide the inner primary over it and NOT have the OD fit into the primary loose ? So ONLY the Oem style made sense to me and all is well, would be nice if John or someone else chimes in and explains details ..
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I don't have those numbers for you,the reason why I chose to stick with the Oem style is because I couldn't understand how can I possibly slide on the inner primary over the main shaft with a sealed bearing pressed into the inner primary, the ID can't be loose on the shaft !?!?
If you install the sealed bearing on the shaft snug like the Oem race, how could I possibly slide the inner primary over it and NOT have the OD fit into the primary loose ? So ONLY the Oem style made sense to me and all is well, would be nice if John or someone else chimes in and explains details ..
If you install the sealed bearing on the shaft snug like the Oem race, how could I possibly slide the inner primary over it and NOT have the OD fit into the primary loose ? So ONLY the Oem style made sense to me and all is well, would be nice if John or someone else chimes in and explains details ..
Baker makes the IPB and they know a hell of a lot about Harley transmissions.
I put one in my bike and really like the fact that the race will NEVER slip into the transmission main seal.
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What's the difference between having the inner part of a sealed bearing fitting "loose" on the transmission main shaft and having the OEM primary bearing fitting "loose" on the inner race.
Baker makes the IPB and they know a hell of a lot about Harley transmissions.
I put one in my bike and really like the fact that the race will NEVER slip into the transmission main seal.
Baker makes the IPB and they know a hell of a lot about Harley transmissions.
I put one in my bike and really like the fact that the race will NEVER slip into the transmission main seal.
I'm not saying sealed one is a bad idea to swap to,I'm saying that I don't understand the reason or the payoff, having not played with that style there.
Now I have sealed bearing pressed into the front wheels on my riding lawnmower, they slip over the axle shaft and I know the inner part of the bearing still slips on the axle shaft wearing it down. That's my thinking of it, that's all..