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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 07:03 AM
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Has anybody tried the S&S 510 cam?
 
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From the number of views I'm going to guess the answer is no.

The EV-27 comes on around 1-1.5k which seems kind of a waste to me as when riding I don't drop it lower than 2k.
From the numbers the S&S 510 should come on around 1800-2k which seems like a better idea to me.
Less wasted power band.
 
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S$S - comp cam - are - computer picks not seat of the saddle safe bets easy install

woods copyed - leinweber and black widow cams - but those who want to believe something else thats fine --

with out a cam doctor profile in a live setting with real objections - you dont know what i am talking about
 
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S$S - comp cam - are - computer picks not seat of the saddle safe bets easy install

woods copyed - leinweber and black widow cams - but those who want to believe something else thats fine --

with out a cam doctor profile in a live setting with real objections - you dont know what i am talking about
You got that last part completely correct sir!!!!
Any chance you could dumb it down for me so that I could understand????
 
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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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You're reading too much into what the marketting puff says! Far wiser to ignore all cam marketting and go by other riders' experience. The EV27 is so popular because it can be all things to all men - even Tina! You won't notice when it 'comes' in, because it gives such a smooth ride. Perhaps you don't ride below 2k because your current cam won't go there?!
 
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put a lienweber cam in call them BUT dont buy his springs they are way to heavy and strong for a street bike

E 3 S or the E 31 - pulls all the time they are bolt in and not an andrews 13 or 27
 
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You're reading too much into what the marketting puff says! Far wiser to ignore all cam marketting and go by other riders' experience. The EV27 is so popular because it can be all things to all men - even Tina! You won't notice when it 'comes' in, because it gives such a smooth ride. Perhaps you don't ride below 2k because your current cam won't go there?!
I have a 27 in the bike now but it runs out too soon for me.
I was looking for something to make the powerband take a small step to the right on the scale.
 
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
put a lienweber cam in call them BUT dont buy his springs they are way to heavy and strong for a street bike

E 3 S or the E 31 - pulls all the time they are bolt in and not an andrews 13 or 27
Thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
put a lienweber cam in call them BUT dont buy his springs they are way to heavy and strong for a street bike

E 3 S or the E 31 - pulls all the time they are bolt in and not an andrews 13 or 27
I took a look at the lineweber's cams and had some questions so I called them cause of the advertised numbers seemed like they carried a lot of duration. It was because their numbers are based off of .020" Lift and not the be industry standards of .053". I talked with Justin (owners son, family owned business.. cool ) and he told me that the E3S is now only a special order cam. Not in high demand anymore but that they had come out with the E4S which has a little more lift @.528 and is still a bolt in cam and that the Intake valve timing @ .053" is 27* open and 40* close claiming a great bottom end to the cam. He did say that if you are to use a .030 head gasket that you might want to check clearances just to be safe and that when they grind their cams they are setting them up to have .050" piston to valve clearance.. one other thing, Justin did say that soon all their cam specs will be listed based off of .053” lift.

Question....Any one have a formula to convert the numbers from .020" lift to .053 lift. Or is that something only the cam designer can measure?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 03:18 PM
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Question....Any one have a formula to convert the numbers from .020" lift to .053 lift. Or is that something only the cam designer can measure?
I did cam design and geometry at college (a long time ago!) and would say that only knowing the geometry of the cam profile on each lobe will allow us to do that. So yes, probably only in the gift of the cam designer.
 
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