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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 08:28 PM
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So I installed a new brake line 2 days ago and I completely drained the master cylinder. New brake line and bled about 2 master cylinder fulls from the master cylinder to the bleeder. Bike says it was DOT 5.I flushed and bled with dot 4. So far so good. No leaks no solidifying. Y'all think I'll be ok?
 

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So I installed a new brake line 2 days ago and I completely drained the master cylinder. New brake line and bled about 2 master cylinder fulls from the master cylinder to the bleeder. Bike says it was DOT 5. Not really available around here. I flushed and bled with dot 4. So far so good. No leaks no solidifying. Y'all think I'll be ok?
Proly ok but dot 5 is better. If I remember right 5 does not absorb water moisture. Dot 5 have is at every auto store around here.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 09:15 PM
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You can find Dot 5 at any auto parts store and at Walmart.
Hard to believe you don't live somewhere near a parts store or a Walmart.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 09:20 PM
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DOT 5 is better, and surely there must be a thousand places to buy it in Houston.
 
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point was I had a lot of Dot 4 in stock. Wanted to know if it'll be ok
 
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Originally Posted by Fblo1690
point was I had a lot of Dot 4 in stock. Wanted to know if it'll be ok
Since you're already running it then I guess you will be the first to know.

Personally I think you will be ok but I also think you will have to change your brake fluid way more than if you used Dot 5.

I wouldn't do it but you already volunteered to be the guinea pig.

Good luck.

FWIW I know the newer Harleys run Dot 4.
 
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Yea my 11 Streetglide uses Dot 4. It's also ABS though. I'll run this till I get around to getting some DOT 5. I'll flush it back out.
 
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Manufacturers got away from DOT 5 when ABS came around.

Motorcycle brakes run hot and DOT 5 has a higher boiling point, so in the absence of ABS it is better.

Personally, I wouldn't make this switch, but if I did, I'd pull the calipers apart and clean the hell out of them and use fresh seals putting them back together.
 
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Most lids are marked, that could be an issue later. I switched without total disassembly, rear, had to bleed like once a month for a couple months, like it had air in the lines. I'm planning to change my brake cylinder so I wasn't that concerned about the caliper. Supposedly they combine and make a foam or something.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 11:30 PM
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IIRC, DOT 4 is hydroscopic meaning it will absorb moisture. Silicone based DOT 5 will not. Mixing fluids, even a small amount, causes residue which can plug lines. Depending on the vehicle, switching fluids can also damage the seals.The other problem with DOT 5 is that over periods of inactivity, the moisture that gets in the lines is heavier than the brake fluid. It sinks to the bottom, usually the calipers, and can cause expensive corrosion. This is why the military has been moving away from DOT 5 especially in reserve vehicles.
 
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