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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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Howdy! So Ive never done a compression test ever till today. I was reading past threads a bit to know why Harley Davidson says 90lbs is sufficient but alot of guys think 150 or more is what it should read. Anyway i did mine and the front read 103 and the rear 120. I thought that was a bit off so I read the threads to add a bit of oil in the off cylinder and it actually read 110 after.
Any ideas on why these are so different between the cylinders and is it that big of deal?
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 01:55 PM
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Hey. My .02 as I recently went through this on a bike that sat for almost 10 years. The oil will seal the rings and check the compression as if the rings were sealed. A large change in your results with oil indicates worn rings and a loss of compression for that reason from what I have read.

I think up to 10% variation is normal or acceptable. If you google search this you will educate yourself on compression tests, leak down tests and how to diagnose bad rings or bad cave seating.

Good luck and there will be smarter folks that chime in. The manual also walks you through this.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 02:18 PM
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1, -Fully Charged battery
Ignition disabled (wires grounded)
Throttle wide open .
.The max difference would be 15 % difference between the two.
On a V8 that might be OK
On a 2 cylinder engine, I would not be happy with that
the closer the better of course.
SO -your readings are just barely in the allowable tolerances
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 02:32 PM
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Here are some numbers I came up with a while back. Short version is (assuming the stock Keihin CV carb), much depends on the state of the throttle and the slide. https://www.hdforums.com/forum/evo-c...n-testing.html

I agree with the conclusion that your difference per cylinder is on the edge of being a point of concern.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Shem77
Howdy! So Ive never done a compression test ever till today. I was reading past threads a bit to know why Harley Davidson says 90lbs is sufficient but alot of guys think 150 or more is what it should read. Anyway i did mine and the front read 103 and the rear 120. I thought that was a bit off so I read the threads to add a bit of oil in the off cylinder and it actually read 110 after.
Any ideas on why these are so different between the cylinders and is it that big of deal?
Recap:
1997 FLHR road king carbed with andrews cam, rejet, v and h pipes
55,555 miles
You did hold the throttle wide open when you did the test right???
Doing that lets air in to be compressed.

The numbers you posted look like your throttle was closed when you did the test.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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Dont forget if its a CV carb you'll need to hold the slide up. Mikini or S&S will open fully with the throttle.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 03:46 PM
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ok so no, i did not hold the throttle open. Its a stock carb.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Shem77
ok so no, i did not hold the throttle open. Its a stock carb.
Then those numbers you got for compression are no good.
Try again and tell us what you get.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 04:10 PM
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Remove air cleaner to get access to carb. Use something to prop open the slide but make sure it i not something that can get sucked into the engine.

Twist the throttle wide open and lock it in the full throttle position with the thumb screw on the throttle (poor mans cruise control).

Then do the compression check based on instructions provided by the previous posts. Don't forget to ground the plug wires.

Just an FYI, my evo had 37,000 miles on it and comp check was 140 each cylinder prior to tear down. The only reason I tore it down was because of base gasket leak. Decided to do a 10 over bore while it was apart. YD
 
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 06:15 PM
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OK, thanks guys but tell me why the plug wires should be ground?
 
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