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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 09:19 AM
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Is there a technical reason NOT to use roller rockers? Additional complexity bringing with it increased failure rate?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 09:27 AM
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Matt... You gotta be kidding...
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingglide549
But you appear not to know much and for sure have no clue how to teach, and is not what this forum is all about?
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Beers-
Lots of people cant disagree on here without becoming uncivil.
No tone here -beers
I disagree with you.
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Then you see and feel my point, there is not very much resistance there.
This pretty much proves what I have been trying to explain.
When they are worn out, they shock the crank more than if they were not there at all.!
Simple kinetics really, as this truly shows what a whimpy snuber this comp thing is.
As I have said Many times B4,- if this thing is all that stands between a broken crank or not HD truly sucks.
To date, no one anywhere has ever proven a comp deletion is what broke their crank.
You all carry do what you like.
Beers! Interesting point you make since I'm still waiting for you to teach us using some technical/engineering details on how the compensator really sucks and doesn't perform as designed.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 10:02 AM
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Hotrod, just thinking, the front intake and rear exhaust, so they're both the same rear rockers on the heads, just trying to help look for common leads.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Schex
Hotrod, just thinking, the front intake and rear exhaust, so they're both the same rear rockers on the heads, just trying to help look for common leads.
Thanks. It's all about the inner rocker cover and how the Moco used the same inner rocker cover but different rockers to try and correct the difference in the geometry of the entire assembly.. basically keeping production costs down by using one over rocker cover to do both front and rear cylinders... The geometry isn't perfect but does work for a stock build but obviously will not work in a performance build and for this reason as well as others, is why I believe it's recommended to use the roller rocker to help reduce the stress on the entire system.....
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 10:49 AM
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I'm not sure it's a geometry issue, even if it's off, it still shouldn't wear like that in a relatively short time, are the stems chamfered and no sharp edges?
FSM says stem protrusion max of 2.034 for stock, see if it's in the ballpark,
I'm still leaning on lube or harness issue.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
Matt... You gotta be kidding...
Nope, please explain what went over my head.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 02:37 PM
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Pushrods in an HD will not change the geometry.
It is that simple folks.
To change the geometry the fulcrum axis will have to be moved, (a lot of rework)
or, the rocker tip adjusted. Which is what most race shops will do.
If you have a big lump stick then the real-estate on top of the valve starts to get more important.
The roller running of the valve stem or favoring just one side is not a great idea under HIGH Spring pressure and fast RPM.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattbastard
Don’t waste your time King. Some people just don’t fully understand how hydraulic lifters work.
You shouldn't gang up on someone you know nothing about...
 

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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 02:58 AM
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Who is ganging up?
Inquiring minds ask for the answer.
Enough of the tease.
The person in question blatantly said several times rocker geometry can be changed by pushrod length on an HD. (johnjziz)
Not only did he say it, but they also said it with attitude and no explanation of how so.
For no reason.
Again what's the point just to jump in with absolutely no explanation?
Only to brag about a race winner somewhere as their authority and again no explanation only the insults.
My mind wants to know.
Insofar all I have received is insults for asking.
 

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