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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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Thanks all for the feedback.

With regards to clutch adjustment - as stated in the OP, this has already been done to factory service manual spec. (Not sure why that when I say I adjusted the clutch to spec it's assumed that I only did the cable...)

The issue existed before I did the primary fliud service, and continues now as well. I did try the "blip the throttle" method, and that does work. So at least I can get the bike into neutral at a stop now. But I would like to address what's actually causing the problem. So I'll continue to diagnose.

The primary chain being too tight sounds like a pretty likely culprit - so I'll check that next. Thanks!
 
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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Check the shift pawl adjustment it could be another likely candidate... Has the bike sat for any period of long time cause sometimes from sitting the steels will rust a little creating less separation for the friction plates.. I only say that because you said it's hard shifting out of first..
 

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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 10:24 AM
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Here is another place to look. Clutch steels, or friction discs warped will drag no matter how many times you "adjust".
 

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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 11:04 AM
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I had an issue similar years ago.....I just remembered

The clutch plates were digging into the clutch hub.....therefore the plates were sticking. I couldn’t find neutral and the bike crept forward with clutch pulled in.

That was 75,000 miles or so.....and abuse
 
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 11:53 AM
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If you are running 20w50 dino in the primary, try some 10w40 synthetic motorcycle oil instead... I've been surprised that a tough to find neutral cares about oil weight, but it definitely makes a difference on my bike. The other that seems to help, is to fully collapse the clutch cable, and use a wrench on the lock nut to loosen it all the way, and a wrench on the barrel adjuster to collapse it all the way. Just as tight as you go with fingers is still a 1/4 turn or more with a wrench. That's a decent amount of adjustment at the clutch hub pushrod/lock nut, and gives you a bit more throw at the hub.

Finger tight collapsed on the clutch cable I always had a bit of creep in first gear at lights and a bang going into 1st. Totally collapsed, wrench tight... neutral is easy and 1st gear from neutral a lot less noisy.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 08:43 PM
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Thanks all - I adjusted the primary chain and all good now. It was a bit tight, and that was it!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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Happens to me once in a while, I leave it in first, hit the gas and release clutch just a little, pull clutch in again and it will go right into neutral.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sgr60
Thanks all - I adjusted the primary chain and all good now. It was a bit tight, and that was it!
Glad to hear you got it taken care of. You might also want to consider what ZackE mentioned.
Occasionally, very seldom in my case. I will loosen the adjusting hex nut all the way out and then tighten it down snug. I do this a fee times sought of like I’m chasing it just to loosen up debris or gunk that might cause a clearance issue. Good precaution and does help
Then to the actual adjustment... I usually turn the adjuster hex screw in with finger is till it taps. And lock it there.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 09:13 AM
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My 1996 Road King has been experiencing shifting to neutral while running problems for years. Somebody in the thread suggested to "burp" the throttle by giving it a little rev and shifting toward neutral at the same time. I have been doing it for about a month now and it has never failed to work. For whatever reason (magic, gremlins, etc.) that it requires this - the "little burp" works for my bike. Thanks for the information.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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Proper clutch adjustment will eliminate need for any "tricks" to find neutral.
 
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