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Old Apr 5, 2020 | 08:55 AM
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If it sounds like it's the front cylinder, give a listen to the front of the primary.

When I retarded the timing on my bike a few degrees last fall, I ended up putting in a new compensator and primary chain... quiet as a church mouse now.

The how's and why's behind what makes a compensator clatter like hell from ignition changes, aren't something I fully understand.
Great suggestion, did the compensator noise change with temperature? just trying to put together a pattern
 
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Old Apr 6, 2020 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ZachE
If it sounds like it's the front cylinder, give a listen to the front of the primary.

When I retarded the timing on my bike a few degrees last fall, I ended up putting in a new compensator and primary chain... quiet as a church mouse now.

The how's and why's behind what makes a compensator clatter like hell from ignition changes, aren't something I fully understand.
Your the one. it is correct I read your post and was like bam... Yes last fall I set up the primary and it was on the tight side. so loosened it up. could not find n. to save my life. set it up at 85 deg f and it was perfect. now as I said old adjuster. with the grooves and lock bolt. noise goes away when the chain warms up. it is really easy to find n and cold or hot. So it had a performance looking compensator. So you just made me realize it. Thank you. I will post up the final findings. on a warmer ambient day my bet is it will not make any noise,
my bet is when I changed the timing of the load on the piston/crank the comp is the noise I am hearing. lol... well I bet it only lasts so long on a stroker motor. any thoughts?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2020 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ZachE
If it sounds like it's the front cylinder, give a listen to the front of the primary.

When I retarded the timing on my bike a few degrees last fall, I ended up putting in a new compensator and primary chain... quiet as a church mouse now.

The how's and why's behind what makes a compensator clatter like hell from ignition changes, aren't something I fully understand.
So we will know when the earth gives us a day of 85 deg f. it may be when hell freezes over but it is on its way. lhahah...
 
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 12:59 PM
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Can't you just ride it and get it up to temperature? I'm lost.
It doesn't need to be 85 degrees outside, you just to get on the throttle and work the gears for a half hour and it will be hot as hell. Ride it hard, she'll heat up
 
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 04:57 AM
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yes when the power train comes up to temp yes it does. noise is very faint. it is barley noticeable when start up on warm days. cold days. more noticeable. tension on primary chain is dependent of temp at start up.it is a stroker motor. it most likely tears up comensators.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 04:42 AM
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So of course I can ride it and it warms up. and on warm days no noise. i remember setting the primary chain to 5/8 free play. shifts great. and at 75 or 80 quiet as can be. But at 38 deg. noise very loud. so shifts great. adjuster is either at 5/8 or 7/8 no in between so I set at 5/8 shifts good. food for thought boys
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 05:16 AM
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I've always set the chain to 1/2"-5/8" and never had issues.. I know others that do as well...
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 05:26 AM
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98hotrodfatboy So yes, I always set at 5/8 top side of the cold adjustment. it was at 7/8 but was hard to shift. so it was really loose and I made the adjustment after the previous owner had set it up by a wiz bang. So I think it has wear patterns. AND i am only hearing it now that it is at a different tension I will say shifts better than ever and the noise is no big deal. amazing how it changes with the timing change. it changes the load on the comensator but it goes away as soon as it is warmed up. Also it is a 96" stroker. it rips. and that most likely pounds the crap out of it.
 

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You can always tear apart the compensator if think there is an issue but even with my 96" stroker I have no issues.. It handles it very well...
 
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Hello all. Well I waned to bring about the final resolution of the noise proved to be the inner primary bearing proved to be the faulted as the transmission required a total overhaul. So with the correct set up. I installed the Jims one piece inner primary bearing kit. Note I also upgraded the trap door and the bearings to the larger size bearings. and converting over to synthetic 85/ 140 Hypoid gear lube and bellray primary lube. So Now I cave corrected the previous owner issues. with that area. I am now preparing for the fine tuning of the engine. bigger carb and new ignition system.

Big thank you to all who provided me wit insight.
 
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