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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
You don't know what you're talking about.. The EV27 is a more exhaustive cam than the EV3.. The EV3 will come on sooner than the 27 due to the lower separation angle, which is 101.0 on EV3 and 102.0 on the 27. also the 27 works better at higher RPM because of the higher duration on the exhaust..
hey 98hotrod, if you actually read my post - it's not a statement, it's a question. I didn't say I know the answer, I was asking why so I could learn something.....

My info/understanding doesn't come from my own imagination, it comes from reading posts written by guys like hillside and other site sponsors and professionals that do it for a living.

Sorry if I made an incorrect statement in your "home field" ..... if it's your home field maybe you'd be more helpful instead of insulting. This is a forum for less experienced purple like myself to learn from, not be belittled.
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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Why I back away when they know everything. You aren't going to change their minds, people tend to keep digging till they hear what they want to.
Wow, unbelievable..... when did I ever say I know everything?
I'm here to learn and if my understanding of something is wrong, then please educate me rather than insult me.
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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 07:33 PM
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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam76
Wow, unbelievable..... when did I ever say I know everything?
I'm here to learn and if my understanding of something is wrong, then please educate me rather than insult me.
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You schooled me in this post, so you must know more than I do so I'll be quiet and I'm not insulting you let's be clear on that.

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it's still one of the best cams for a mild build..... it's definitely NOT a high rpm cam, and set with 9.5 comp it's still one of the best combinations out there pulling from 2000rpm with many builders still recommending this combo today, and probably will be tomorrow. You want a stump puller for a heavy bike? Then sure the ev13 might be a better option..... but let's not get into another cam debate 🙄
 
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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 08:18 PM
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For cryin out loud...

The guy came here asking for help, when he mentioned he was thinking of an EV 27 the know it all attitude started.

If you don`t want to help the guy, then don't...



 
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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
I hear you TwiZted, this guy actually did it a few months ago when he was talking about a build thread in the mechanical section and that's why I said what I said here, because kind of same thing started happening over there.. I left that thread as well...
I'd still like to set the record straight. The motor build thread that you helped me with earlier, as I remember I pretty much listened to and did every single thing you suggested along the way.
so I don't understand how you can referrence that I didn't listen or follow your advice Back in that thread ?
I don't know where the attitude comes from, but if you're here to help people you have to understand that they come to the forum with a little understanding of a subject and that's the basis of their knowledge. They come here to expand the knowledge, and I for one am definitely not looking for an argument.

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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 08:47 PM
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Not trying to argue.. And I won't. It doesn't work... Sometimes I'll read a statement that is not justifiable and call it... As I did.. Next time I'll just stay away.. Honestly though, good luck with your ride..
 
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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 09:27 PM
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Wow, far out.

Hey Adam 76, pull the cam & see what’s in there before you get too deep.

As Dan said best to check/replace bearing anyhow.

I’ve used the EV13 & EV27 in the same motor & like the EV13 for the rev range l ride in.

Motor isn’t hot-rodded, only just over 170 PSI.

If your near Melbourne & Dave still runs Doc Hoggs, call him.

He’s built many HD engines over several decades.

Other quality builders State side- Kirby, Hillside etc.

Cheers & good luck.

 

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Old Jun 27, 2020 | 11:36 PM
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Keep reading "better cams" out there than a EV27 because it is old technology but never offers to name better new technology cams, Wood produced a Evo cam 2 decades ago but not for everyone.

Hillside pushes Wood cams and they work, a W6 is a spin off of the EV27 with similar design, if you read Hillside's history of building Evo's, states he leaves a EV27 in if already installed, that's saying a lot about the old technology cam.

Several guys on this forum knows the formula of tried and trued numbers for a light or heavy bike taking in consideration of riding style. Some head straight to something that works, some experiment away from tendencies trying to gain more power, some steer towards dependability. I really don't know where I'm going with this except the Evo section is too valuable and experienced to not remain flexible on direction.



 
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Old Jun 28, 2020 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternNSW
Wow, far out.

Hey Adam 76, pull the cam & see what’s in there before you get too deep.

As Dan said best to check/replace bearing anyhow.

I’ve used the EV13 & EV27 in the same motor & like the EV13 for the rev range l ride in.

Motor isn’t hot-rodded, only just over 170 PSI.

If your near Melbourne & Dave still runs Doc Hoggs, call him.

He’s built many HD engines over several decades.

Other quality builders State side- Kirby, Hillside etc.

Cheers & good luck.
thanks westernnsw, with the 27 at 9.5 I'm calculating around 185ccp which I've been told is about ideal for street use. With a softail I was advised by countless people it was a great combination for broad tq curve and good mid range.

If I had stock compression I probably would have gone with the 13 like you did..... Still don't know how this thread turned into a which can is the best cam pissing match. Anyways, what do I know? All good. Cheers
 

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