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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 11:32 AM
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Hi guys,, I'm working on my 1992 FXDC Dyna and was trying to change the compression nut fitting on the pipe going into the Oil Pump. Because of the angle and access being bloody impossible I think I bent the spanner angle and basically left the thread part of the Nut in the manifold section of the pump. I hope the issue is clear from the diagram attached. There are 2 diagrams as they show a slightly different pump but I think mine is the one I've written on.

I have tried using a "screw out" type drill bit (by hand) to try and grab the remaining "hollow" thread and wrangle it out BUT didn't work.

My question is whether there is an easy way to get this section of the Pump off so I can work on it on my table? Can I just remove one screw and drop of the bottom part as indicated in the diagram? What about the other oil line?

Also does anyone have any other ideas on how to remove this from the pump.

Many thanks.....I thought this would be a quick job hahaha!


 
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Not familiar with that style pump, but the diagram shows 2 screws holding that bottom part on. #4 on the top pic and #7 on the bottom pic. Remove those and it looks like it should come off. Buy new O rings for putting it back together.

An Easy Out "MIGHT" work in that situation if you have it on the bench in a vice. I would try the super cheap HF square kind, as they tend to bend instead of breaking like a real Easy Out brand does.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 03:48 PM
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Not familiar with that style pump, but the diagram shows 2 screws holding that bottom part on. #4 on the top pic and #7 on the bottom pic. Remove those and it looks like it should come off. Buy new O rings for putting it back together.

An Easy Out "MIGHT" work in that situation if you have it on the bench in a vice. I would try the super cheap HF square kind, as they tend to bend instead of breaking like a real Easy Out brand does.
Thanks Dr Hess, ye thats what I thought but recently all my "simple" projects have become complicated so I wanted to double check that was the case - of removing the bottom that simply. I'll have a look at the Easy Off style tool, the ones ive got have different heads on them and these look like they might be more efficient.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 04:06 PM
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You could try these:
https://www.harborfreight.com/screw-...-pc-61981.html

Be VERY careful with them. Drill out whatever is stuck as much as possible without getting into the threads. With those left hand drill bits, it might catch and back out at that point. If not, use the largest extractor tool possible and work it in there. Only use tangental force on the tool of you can snap them and then really have a problem. That's why I like the cheap HF sets. The steel in them is much inferior to the big names ones, so when you snap it off, it isn't as much of a disaster. HF used to sell these square ones that were really cheap and soft. Those were great because you could just drill them out.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 04:21 PM
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Don't know that there is a Harbor Freight in Gibraltar....
 
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 04:43 PM
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Looks like #3 and #7 (top pic) are easily replaced, so worst case you end up replacing both of them. #7 already needs to be replaced. I agree with Dr Hess, a large easy out is your best bet. Used then plenty of times for pieces of broken pipe inside fittings.

Try a little heat on the housing (#3) when you are trying to extract with the easy out. Shouldn't be too stuck in there. Go slow, be careful, if it does not want to move, try a few heat and cool cycles, and good luck.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 05:42 PM
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If you can get to it, might not have to remove anything, and use the square style easy out, tap it in, apply a little heat,, the screw style easy out will expand that piece of fitting and make it tighter.

 
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Oh, yeah, Gibraltar. Forgot. Surely they have something similar in Spain. The "Chinese Tool Store." Those square ones are the ones I like to use, Schex. Well, I don't like to use any of them, actually.
 
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Yep , they only work in certain situations, I call them hard outs, cause if it breaks,,,,
 
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Thank you gentlemen, yes, no Harbour Freight (correct QC) but actually amazon.es is actually pretty good for cheap Chinese product like this and next day delivery...so I bought some of the "square" ones last night on Amazon (arrive today!) as It looks like these might catch better, thanks Schex, Dr Hess . Thanks for this idea of using heatYankee Dog - I'll try this before removing No3, which I'm trying to avoid!
 
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