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Old May 11, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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1996 EGUCFI - 65,000 miles, Magnetti Marelli FI.

I will start the bike, engine light stays red for about 15 seconds and will go off. Bike will idle fine for a bit and will then start to idle erratically jumping from normal to about 1500...then dropping to 500 and almost stalling. Bike will sometimes stall or just stumble and then cough out the intake. Exhaust smells very rich.

Bike has a new fuel pump and fuel filter last season, have cleaned the sensors etc. Any ideas? Replace the sensors? Injectors?

I found another thread that had all of the same issues listed but never had a resolution posted. Oddly enough out of all the Harleys I have owned this is my 1st FI bike.

Appreciate any thoughts!!!

 
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Old May 11, 2021 | 10:27 AM
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If you have check engine light on after start for 15 seconds, you have error codes stored that indicate your problem. Read those numbers and then get back to us. Ken
 
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Old May 11, 2021 | 10:32 AM
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How do I pull those with a non digital odo? Based on flashes when in retrieval mode?

As in:
https://hdbitchin.com/index.php?topic=1426.0
 
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Old May 11, 2021 | 10:44 AM
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I believe you turn ignition on off three times. As for reading numbers….I don’t remember right off.

I agree…..get the historical code.

From the symptoms you describe…..

Make sure the Idle control motor is working, then check/reset cold and hot idles. There’s a great YouTube video showing the procedure.

Was the bike running great before you cleaned things?
 
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Old May 11, 2021 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOrider
I believe you turn ignition on off three times. As for reading numbers….I don’t remember right off.

I agree…..get the historical code.

From the symptoms you describe…..

Make sure the Idle control motor is working, then check/reset cold and hot idles. There’s a great YouTube video showing the procedure.

Was the bike running great before you cleaned things?
No, end of last season while on a ride the issues started...before I cleaned anything. It will happen whether under throttle load or just idling.
 
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Old May 11, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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Assuming you have no factory service manual...you really need one for a FI bike, especially. Numerous threads on this, use the search function.

But here you go... Turn on ignition.Leave it on.Turn on for 5 secs. and then turn off what I call the fuel pump switch. Do it again. The third time leave it on. You will get fast flashes which will then stop. Then you will get slow flash, either a 1,2,3, or 5, then a pause. Then you will get another series of slow flash. These 2 series of slow flashes will be your trouble code ...(a 3 and 3 will be 33). It may give another series of slow flashes that are different numbers which means more than 1 trouble code. If not, it will go back to the fast flashes, and then repeat the trouble code(s).
 
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Old May 11, 2021 | 11:10 AM
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"I will start the bike, engine light stays red for about 15 seconds and will go off"

Just curious
This bike has a Red engine light??

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Old May 11, 2021 | 11:37 AM
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My 98 FLHTCUI also has a red light, WP. Ken
 
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Old May 11, 2021 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by evotrike
Assuming you have no factory service manual...you really need one for a FI bike, especially. Numerous threads on this, use the search function.

I know, I know....but hey.....I can tear down a Shovelhead blindfolded.....so there's that.


Appreciate the info, I'll work on pulling the codes tonight.
 
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Old May 11, 2021 | 01:57 PM
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Pull the codes, but it sonds like a temp sensor failure, located in the chimney of the front head to me
 
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