Johnson Hylift Instructions ?
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2.5 turns, If inner cam bearing isn't a cageless type (torrington) then change it regardless of the condition it is in.
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Just want to add on to this..
Torrington is just the name of a brand, originated in Connecticut, USA, sold off several times since the 1960's.. Ingersoll Rand owned it.. then Timken, last sold to JTEKT/KOYO SEIKO out of Japan (known as KOYO in the US) bearing company.
People commonly refer to it as a Torrington bearing but they make both caged.. meaning shell type, and cageless.. which are considered full complement bearings.
Most Torrington bearings have been of caged design, so you are correct to call the DESIRED BEARING a "cageless type" rather than to call it a Torrington.
The KOYO B-138 is the correct bearing for the EVO engine. $10 or less all day long.
They can sometimes be found for $6-$8 if you look around.. just don't get scalped by an eBay idiot asking $25+.
B-138 is considered a full complement, drawn cup needle bearing.
When installing, install with letters facing you.
With your adjustable pushrods, adjust until you have .12" preload on your lifters.
More does not mean better on pushrod adjustment.
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Sounds like your pushrods are 24TPI
If so, with the pushrod loose and lifter not touching the cam lobe, screw it in until you barely feel resistance of it touching the lifter.
There are six sides on the hex nut.. with a "flat" side facing you.. count 18 flats... that will give you .125" preload.
It will require 3 turns if your pushrods are 24 threads per inch.
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It's going to be an even number.
Sounds like your pushrods are 24TPI
If so, with the pushrod loose and lifter not touching the cam lobe, screw it in until you barely feel resistance of it touching the lifter.
There are six sides on the hex nut.. with a "flat" side facing you.. count 18 flats... that will give you .125" preload.
It will require 3 turns if your pushrods are 24 threads per inch.
Sounds like your pushrods are 24TPI
If so, with the pushrod loose and lifter not touching the cam lobe, screw it in until you barely feel resistance of it touching the lifter.
There are six sides on the hex nut.. with a "flat" side facing you.. count 18 flats... that will give you .125" preload.
It will require 3 turns if your pushrods are 24 threads per inch.
I thought 25 was odd too , will double check that. Thanks for the info.
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It's going to be an even number.
Sounds like your pushrods are 24TPI
If so, with the pushrod loose and lifter not touching the cam lobe, screw it in until you barely feel resistance of it touching the lifter.
There are six sides on the hex nut.. with a "flat" side facing you.. count 18 flats... that will give you .125" preload.
It will require 3 turns if your pushrods are 24 threads per inch.
Sounds like your pushrods are 24TPI
If so, with the pushrod loose and lifter not touching the cam lobe, screw it in until you barely feel resistance of it touching the lifter.
There are six sides on the hex nut.. with a "flat" side facing you.. count 18 flats... that will give you .125" preload.
It will require 3 turns if your pushrods are 24 threads per inch.
I installed a set of Johnson Hylift last June in my Road King. Larry advised me to set the preload at .140. I have a set of Crane Timesavers pushrods I bought in the late '90s. The thread pitch on these is metric at 1.00 mm/thread. I used 3.5 turns, that got me at .138. Just putting this out there to note the metric thread pitch.
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I installed a set of Johnson Hylift last June in my Road King. Larry advised me to set the preload at .140. I have a set of Crane Timesavers pushrods I bought in the late '90s. The thread pitch on these is metric at 1.00 mm/thread. I used 3.5 turns, that got me at .138. Just putting this out there to note the metric thread pitch.
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I installed a set of Johnson Hylift last June in my Road King. Larry advised me to set the preload at .140. I have a set of Crane Timesavers pushrods I bought in the late '90s. The thread pitch on these is metric at 1.00 mm/thread. I used 3.5 turns, that got me at .138. Just putting this out there to note the metric thread pitch.
Crane Timesavers new design is supposed to be 28 TPI
The cam manufacturers selling those lifters (manufactured by Johnson Hylift in Michigan) recommend .12" on the preload.
That's all they do is manufacture valvetrain components and the .12" spec is listed in specifications by Comp Cams and others.
Two hundredths isn't likely to hurt anything, some people run .15" but again, just letting you know what actual spec is.
PS. Are far as your pushrods, Crane is made in USA for American motorcycles.. I'll bet you a beer it's not spec'd metric.
Probably counted a "half thread", count the side with the least threads if that makes sense.. even if you counted 25, that's close to 24 than it is 28.. it is 24 TPI.
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Crane Timesavers old version is supposed to be 24 TPI
Crane Timesavers new design is supposed to be 28 TPI
The cam manufacturers selling those lifters (manufactured by Johnson Hylift in Michigan) recommend .12" on the preload.
That's all they do is manufacture valvetrain components and the .12" spec is listed in specifications by Comp Cams and others.
Two hundredths isn't likely to hurt anything, some people run .15" but again, just letting you know what actual spec is.
PS. Are far as your pushrods, Crane is made in USA for American motorcycles.. I'll bet you a beer it's not spec'd metric.
Probably counted a "half thread", count the side with the least threads if that makes sense.. even if you counted 25, that's close to 24 than it is 28.. it is 24 TPI.
Crane Timesavers new design is supposed to be 28 TPI
The cam manufacturers selling those lifters (manufactured by Johnson Hylift in Michigan) recommend .12" on the preload.
That's all they do is manufacture valvetrain components and the .12" spec is listed in specifications by Comp Cams and others.
Two hundredths isn't likely to hurt anything, some people run .15" but again, just letting you know what actual spec is.
PS. Are far as your pushrods, Crane is made in USA for American motorcycles.. I'll bet you a beer it's not spec'd metric.
Probably counted a "half thread", count the side with the least threads if that makes sense.. even if you counted 25, that's close to 24 than it is 28.. it is 24 TPI.
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I double checked the push rods with the HF thread gauge, definitely 25 tpi, BUT I also checked with my Snap on thread chaser kit, 24 tpi,, cheap *** HF gauge. 
Now i'm just waiting for the breather spacers to arrive and I can button it back up.
Now i'm just waiting for the breather spacers to arrive and I can button it back up.
