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Old Jun 22, 2023 | 04:42 PM
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Ever since I put my chopper together in 2007 the starter intermittently makes a horrible high pitch grinding noise when trying to engage. Sometimes it happens three or four times in a row and sometimes I can go for a while without a problem. The bike is an old Drag Specialties Bike-in-a-Box so everything is aftermarket. When it first happened the shop loaned me a cutaway outer primary and it worked perfectly (of course). I've been living with it for over 9000 miles in 15 years. Today I opened it up to see what I can see. Checked the bendix by hand, it turns only one way. The other way I can turn the starter. I have a cut-down outer primary from a 95 softail but the starter gear bushing is smaller than my gear so I can't try that approach. Here are pictures that show disassembling the starter gear bolt. I was told it's a hybrid bolt for early/late starter and/or jackshaft. Does that sound right?


I can push the gear off center with a little resistance.



Bolt and washer disassembly.



The gold washer has a step worn into it. I flipped it over when reassembling.

I was told the bolt is a hybrid old/new.





My outer primary bushing is bigger than one from a 95 Softail. What years look like mine?





This is what my starter looks like, pardon all the pollen.


I'm coming to you for advice for anything to do before I pull the starter. I think the bendix is in the starter, can it be serviced/replaced separately? What years starter is this? Thanks, Joe
 
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Old Jun 22, 2023 | 05:08 PM
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Sounds like the clutch inside the starter let go, common with that style and easy to replace. There were two drive tooth styles in the primary the evo years, I suspect it's a post 94 starter but don't hold me to that I can't remember the detail in dates and the changes.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2023 | 05:38 PM
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Two things i see - the gear is far away from the ring gear compared to a stock one

i also would say as twist the starter clutch is stalling
 
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Old Jun 22, 2023 | 08:58 PM
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@TwiZted Biker Glad to hear the bendix is easy to change, will get one ordered.

Is All ***** still any good? Who makes a good one?

@johnjzjz how is the gear distance fixed?

 

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Old Jun 23, 2023 | 02:54 PM
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What year starter does this look like?



 
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Old Jun 23, 2023 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe12RK
What year starter does this look like?


Looks like a 1.4 KW aftermarket Nippondenso starter. You can buy a starter clutch at your local auto electric re-builder.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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The starter motor assembly is '94-up. Pre '94 used 1/4-20 bolt, '94 up uses 10-32 bolt is why you have that homemade thru bolt.

Just guessing, I'd say everything else from the starter motor itself outboard is '90-'93 stuff. But beware if you try to make everything more like it should be - '89 used some different (outer) parts from '90 or' 94 style. I'd have to go to the book to tell you exactly which ones but the pinion, jack shaft for sure are different 89/90.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2023 | 11:01 AM
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I normally don't like side loading ball bearings, but it appears that's the only way to remove this?


Press out from the inner race?



Does the new one come with bearings, and is it OK to press it in? I don't see any other way.


Press new one in by the inner race?
 
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This guy made a pretty good video for replacing the starter clutch.


 

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Old Jun 26, 2023 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
This guy made a pretty good video for replacing the starter clutch.


Starter Repair
The guy screwed up. He forgot one thing..
 
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