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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 03:32 PM
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When and if you replace the seal, take note of the depth that the seal is installed. There is an oil passage in the cam cover that can be blocked off if the replacement seal is not seated to the correct depth.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 07:14 AM
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When and if you replace the seal, take note of the depth that the seal is installed. There is an oil passage in the cam cover that can be blocked off if the replacement seal is not seated to the correct depth.
Thanks YD, I haven’t reinstalled the exhaust yet, so I should probably pull the nose cone and swap this seal. I’ll check the depth carefully!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GOGOBECK
Thanks YD, I haven’t reinstalled the exhaust yet, so I should probably pull the nose cone and swap this seal. I’ll check the depth carefully!
From the outside in, there is the seal, and then there is a bronze bushing behind it.

The oil passage in question is in the bushing.

Pull the old seal out. Push the nrw one in. It should land flush against the bushing.

Unless you disturb the position of the bushing (and that would take some doing, as it's an interference fit), the oil passage will be unaffected.

EDIT: I'm leaving this up to promote well deserved shame and abuse, but there is better information downthread.
 

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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 10:48 AM
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Wink actually...

The only oil passage in the cam bushing is the feed. The drain bore is in the housing.

The seal installs flush with the outer housing bore. If you drive it all the way inboard, it will effectively block the drain.








 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 11:20 AM
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Thanks for all the good info!
I’ll probably do this over the weekend, it’s 72° and sunshine here in Virginia today… I’m going for a ride!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GOGOBECK
Thanks YD, I haven’t reinstalled the exhaust yet, so I should probably pull the nose cone and swap this seal. I’ll check the depth carefully!
I don't believe it's necessary to remove the nose cone to pull the seal.. As for setting the depth of the new seal, I would just make sure that it sits flush with the outside of the cover and not in all the way.. In the great pics that Rufus posted you don't want to partially block the oil return port..
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by t150vej
The only oil passage in the cam bushing is the feed. The drain bore is in the housing.

The seal installs flush with the outer housing bore. If you drive it all the way inboard, it will effectively block the drain.
Yep. Upon further inspection, I was talking out of my ***.

I forgot that there is a shoulder in the nosecone that separates the bushing from the seal.

Bushing gets pushed hard against that shoulder from the inside. Seal gets mounted flush.

Between the bevel on the shoulder and the radius on the seal, you probably won't block that drain port even if you drive the seal home, but since flush is good enough, that's the way to go
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 12:43 PM
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Lol. yeah happens to me all the time. Looked at and played with so many parts they all run together sometimes.

Your right, it won't totally block the drain, but it would severely obstruct drainage to seat the seal.
 
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
I don't believe it's necessary to remove the nose cone to pull the seal.. As for setting the depth of the new seal, I would just make sure that it sits flush with the outside of the cover and not in all the way.. In the great pics that Rufus posted you don't want to partially block the oil return port..
Thanks I didn’t know this was an option.

I found a video online where they drilled a couple holes in the seal and used screws to grab onto to pull it out.
Is there a better way?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2024 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GOGOBECK
Well, this seal didn’t get replaced !! 🤦🏻‍♂️
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I’ve done cam swaps in the past and don’t remember needing to replace this seal.
That's really all you need to know.

I could write a laundry list of reasons as to why, but unless it's leaking, best leave it alone.
 
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