Evo Bore kit questions
Beemervet,
Sorry for the late reply, but I have not been monitoring the thread for awhile. The plan is to install my 85" kit sometime in late March. Financial considerations have slowed the project down a bit. I had my SE heads ported and flowed and then CC'ed and decked to bring them back down to 72CC's. Decided to go with a different cam to optomize the work done to the SE heads, which means clearancing the lifter blocks and case. My chrome work sent in on 2-1-08 and promised in two weeks is still not done [:@]. A few more parts are still needed, but have been ordered.
Looks like the best way to do this is to pull the engine out of the bike.I'll be down for awhile due to a surgery (foot), scheduled on April 3rd for about 4 weeks. The engine will be out of the bike prior to that. If all works out, my friend and brother BJ should have the engine doneby the time I can ride again. It will not take me long to get it reinstalled I can gaurantee that!!
BTW, I am now a Revolution Peformance dealer. That being said, I'm confident enough in the product toride what I now sell. The customer service is fantastic. I can tell you though, I am somewhat concerned about my 93 cases holding up.If this bad boy blows, I'll probably be looking ata new engine or salvage what I can with a new set of Delkron or S&S cases.
Sorry for the late reply, but I have not been monitoring the thread for awhile. The plan is to install my 85" kit sometime in late March. Financial considerations have slowed the project down a bit. I had my SE heads ported and flowed and then CC'ed and decked to bring them back down to 72CC's. Decided to go with a different cam to optomize the work done to the SE heads, which means clearancing the lifter blocks and case. My chrome work sent in on 2-1-08 and promised in two weeks is still not done [:@]. A few more parts are still needed, but have been ordered.
Looks like the best way to do this is to pull the engine out of the bike.I'll be down for awhile due to a surgery (foot), scheduled on April 3rd for about 4 weeks. The engine will be out of the bike prior to that. If all works out, my friend and brother BJ should have the engine doneby the time I can ride again. It will not take me long to get it reinstalled I can gaurantee that!!
BTW, I am now a Revolution Peformance dealer. That being said, I'm confident enough in the product toride what I now sell. The customer service is fantastic. I can tell you though, I am somewhat concerned about my 93 cases holding up.If this bad boy blows, I'll probably be looking ata new engine or salvage what I can with a new set of Delkron or S&S cases.
i agree with grbrown. the old cases wont handle the power, not without coming apart. i have had to heli-coil one front head bolt stud in already. i myself would love to have a more powerful engine but realize that the proper way to do it would be to just buy a revtech or other aftermarket motor. build more power from it would first start out cheaper but in the long run you would be rolling the dice. im sure you even get some shops to tell you that you can do it without any problems but when you start to have them they say you did something wrong or give you another excuse. i have a 90 with milled heads and a cam and thats good enough for me. if i was rich id buy a S&S and a 6 speed and go with a chain, but im not, at least not yet.
BTW,
For those that have not researched, the Revolution Performance 85" kit is a pure bolt on. I decided to go that way instead of splitting the cases and installing a set of stroker flywheels. Performance is like anything else is "How much do you wish to spend to go fast."
After being disappointed and burned with a couple of sets of "used" barrelson eBay, I found the R/P kit to be the most cost effective. My mods from there have just increased the cost and complexity of the build. That being said, I probably would have been better off buying a new engine in the long run. Problem with the Evo FXR is the rocker box to frame clearance limits the cylinder height, so your choices are limited.
If you think I'm kidding, price out a new set of HD barrelsand pistons, S&Sand so forth. Better yet, price outthe cost to just repowder coat, highlight, bore and buy new pistons/rings for your current barrels if they are not natural.I try to buy American made products unless there is no other choice. Remember that most of the aftermarket barrels offered arenot made in the USA.
At $300.00 a set forDrag Specialties (made in Taiwan) barrels for instanceon eBay may look attractive. Then add the price of thepistons/rings you chooseto that, not to mention that you are still at the stock bore.
On the other hand, the R/P cylinders are made in the USA, the pistons are forged and supplied byCP one of the best names in the business. The rings are installed onto the pistons andare file fitted to the barrels when the kit arrives. The kit also comes with a lifetime warranty on the parts.(I received a blemished cylinder, it was replaced at no charge shipping included with no questons asked.)
Ask anyone with Revtec stuff that neededwarranty work what has happened. Insome cases problems have occurred with Ultima as well.S&S is never a problem, but you pay the premium for the name and product. I've said enough,your choicepay your money and take your chances.Spend some time researching what has been said here and on other forums (HD MSN) for example for what you wish to accomplish. Good luck with your decision.
For those that have not researched, the Revolution Performance 85" kit is a pure bolt on. I decided to go that way instead of splitting the cases and installing a set of stroker flywheels. Performance is like anything else is "How much do you wish to spend to go fast."
After being disappointed and burned with a couple of sets of "used" barrelson eBay, I found the R/P kit to be the most cost effective. My mods from there have just increased the cost and complexity of the build. That being said, I probably would have been better off buying a new engine in the long run. Problem with the Evo FXR is the rocker box to frame clearance limits the cylinder height, so your choices are limited.
If you think I'm kidding, price out a new set of HD barrelsand pistons, S&Sand so forth. Better yet, price outthe cost to just repowder coat, highlight, bore and buy new pistons/rings for your current barrels if they are not natural.I try to buy American made products unless there is no other choice. Remember that most of the aftermarket barrels offered arenot made in the USA.
At $300.00 a set forDrag Specialties (made in Taiwan) barrels for instanceon eBay may look attractive. Then add the price of thepistons/rings you chooseto that, not to mention that you are still at the stock bore.
On the other hand, the R/P cylinders are made in the USA, the pistons are forged and supplied byCP one of the best names in the business. The rings are installed onto the pistons andare file fitted to the barrels when the kit arrives. The kit also comes with a lifetime warranty on the parts.(I received a blemished cylinder, it was replaced at no charge shipping included with no questons asked.)
Ask anyone with Revtec stuff that neededwarranty work what has happened. Insome cases problems have occurred with Ultima as well.S&S is never a problem, but you pay the premium for the name and product. I've said enough,your choicepay your money and take your chances.Spend some time researching what has been said here and on other forums (HD MSN) for example for what you wish to accomplish. Good luck with your decision.
ORIGINAL: Buddy WMC
a different cam to optomize the work done to the SE heads, which means clearancing the lifter blocks and case.
a different cam to optomize the work done to the SE heads, which means clearancing the lifter blocks and case.
S&S is never a problem, but you pay the premium for the name and product. I've said enough,your choicepay your money and take your chances.
ORIGINAL: JakeSabre
If you are going to a high lift cam, you may need beefier valve springs, and then, you'll need to clearance the rocker boxes as well.
ORIGINAL: Buddy WMC
a different cam to optomize the work done to the SE heads, which means clearancing the lifter blocks and case.
a different cam to optomize the work done to the SE heads, which means clearancing the lifter blocks and case.
Already thought about that and done as the parts are on the shelf. V-Thunder EVL 5015 cam, matching V-Thunder B-Hive valve springs on the SE heads, V-Thunder lifters, S&S chrome rocker boxes and TP roller rockers and shafts
.Getting ready to get on it and tear down soon as the chrome gets back and some arrangements are made.
I'll be watching your progress Buddy. I've already got my motor at stage 2, with SE heads and a PCIII and Thunderheader. I like the sound of that 85" kit. As a dealer can you beat their website price? Who ported your SE heads?
Beemervet,
We'll be delayed on the build for a couple of weeks.Some of my chrome returned while I was in Daytona, but two pieces need to be redone (I'm fussy). I also picked up a new bottom triple tree and Voes bracket that need to be plated.
Tentatively we are scheduledto tear down next week. We need to perhaps modify the cases and lifter blocks to accomodatethe higher lift cam. After that or maybe before, I'm trucking the bike over to the east coast to have a trusted friend/brother reassemble the engine and break it in for me while I'm in the hospital 4-2-08. That's kind of scary as I know how BJ rides a bike
. Should be good to go in four weeks after I get out of the foot cast.
Larry's Motorcycle and Machine in Illinois ported my SE heads. I can't say enough about the quality of the work done. Larry had the foresight to sink the exhaust valve slightly to avoid a collision at overlap with the higher lift cam. We also swapped out the stock SE valve springs for the V-Thunder B-Hive springs to match my EVL-5015 cam. That way we were able to install the good blue Cometic Viton valve seals without worrying about knocking them off.This is a known problem with the stock HD springs and seals with a higher lift cam. Larry knows what he is doing with SE heads and flowed mine.Theyflowed the bestat 585 lift. That iswhy on his recommendation (confirmed by V-Thunder), we went with the EVL-5015 cam and matching lifters.
Yes, I can save you some money on the price of the kit. Gotta be cash only though, so we do not have to eat the credit card or paypal fees. I can have the kit drop shipped to your home or place of business. I need to know what you are looking forwith your combination, such as compression ratio, cam choice and so forth, so your kit can be custom made for your needs. The kit comes standard with 10.5 pistons for use with stock heads. If you intend to use SE heads then 9.5 as my kit was made up.If you have Larry or anyone else do your port work, make sure that the heads are cc'ed and milled back down to 72cc's.
If I can help you out, PM or E-mail me. We are installing a R/P 98" kit on a TC tomorrow morning with 585 gear drive cams. Should be interesting.....
We'll be delayed on the build for a couple of weeks.Some of my chrome returned while I was in Daytona, but two pieces need to be redone (I'm fussy). I also picked up a new bottom triple tree and Voes bracket that need to be plated.
Tentatively we are scheduledto tear down next week. We need to perhaps modify the cases and lifter blocks to accomodatethe higher lift cam. After that or maybe before, I'm trucking the bike over to the east coast to have a trusted friend/brother reassemble the engine and break it in for me while I'm in the hospital 4-2-08. That's kind of scary as I know how BJ rides a bike
. Should be good to go in four weeks after I get out of the foot cast.Larry's Motorcycle and Machine in Illinois ported my SE heads. I can't say enough about the quality of the work done. Larry had the foresight to sink the exhaust valve slightly to avoid a collision at overlap with the higher lift cam. We also swapped out the stock SE valve springs for the V-Thunder B-Hive springs to match my EVL-5015 cam. That way we were able to install the good blue Cometic Viton valve seals without worrying about knocking them off.This is a known problem with the stock HD springs and seals with a higher lift cam. Larry knows what he is doing with SE heads and flowed mine.Theyflowed the bestat 585 lift. That iswhy on his recommendation (confirmed by V-Thunder), we went with the EVL-5015 cam and matching lifters.
Yes, I can save you some money on the price of the kit. Gotta be cash only though, so we do not have to eat the credit card or paypal fees. I can have the kit drop shipped to your home or place of business. I need to know what you are looking forwith your combination, such as compression ratio, cam choice and so forth, so your kit can be custom made for your needs. The kit comes standard with 10.5 pistons for use with stock heads. If you intend to use SE heads then 9.5 as my kit was made up.If you have Larry or anyone else do your port work, make sure that the heads are cc'ed and milled back down to 72cc's.
If I can help you out, PM or E-mail me. We are installing a R/P 98" kit on a TC tomorrow morning with 585 gear drive cams. Should be interesting.....







