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t150 - thanks for the info - along with others. I'll go digging if I get some time tonight.
I have been toying with the idea of removing that ignition switch because my inner fairing was torn up a bit. Ithought if I could get rid of the switch I would just buy a new one and hide it somewhere else on the bike - then just make a plate to match my missing stereo and speakers to cover that area. Since it doesn't really lock anymore it is not very useful as a security device. I figured hiding the switch is actually a better move. Anyone know how hard it is to rip out that old switch and re-wire in a generic one?
I have been toying with the idea of removing that ignition switch because my inner fairing was torn up a bit. Ithought if I could get rid of the switch I would just buy a new one and hide it somewhere else on the bike - then just make a plate to match my missing stereo and speakers to cover that area. Since it doesn't really lock anymore it is not very useful as a security device. I figured hiding the switch is actually a better move. Anyone know how hard it is to rip out that old switch and re-wire in a generic one?
The only "trick" is getting the (lock) **** off. There is a pin/**** on the left side of the switch (under the housing) that you pull with needle noses. Push the **** down, pull the pin and lift the switch **** off. Then there will be a nut (like a radio antenna nut on a car) that screws off and it's free to come out.
The switch itself is simple as it gets. One hot going in, and 3 switched wires coming out. The ACC side is "hot" in all positions except off, the other 2 (ign and lights) are independent of each other. Any car or pickup switch for 50's -60's would work, but you'd only have acc and ign so you'd have to tie lights to ignition or run a seperate toggle for them. BUT, you could wire the starter to the switch. How cool would that be?
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The switch itself is simple as it gets. One hot going in, and 3 switched wires coming out. The ACC side is "hot" in all positions except off, the other 2 (ign and lights) are independent of each other. Any car or pickup switch for 50's -60's would work, but you'd only have acc and ign so you'd have to tie lights to ignition or run a seperate toggle for them. BUT, you could wire the starter to the switch. How cool would that be?
Help me out a little, by wiring the starter to the switch would i get a direct start by turning the switch - like a car - or would it be added security so that if someone didn't know where the switch was they wouldn't be able to start the bike?
I didn't get to take it apart last night but did go for a short ride. The turn signals worked fine when I first got going and all the way to the store about 10 miles away. Coming back I had intermittent use for the first few miles and then nothing. So whatever is going on gets worse as the bike heats up.
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But one thing to consider, if your actual switch lock works, I'd do the relay thing for acc. (I'm forgetting all about the fork lock feature ever working) Also, if it won't lock the **** in the "lock" position, it's supposed to also lock the **** in the acc position. Might check that out for the heck of it. If that is something you'd live with, you'd tie the acc breaker to the ign and disconnect the acc wire from the switch alltogether.
Losing amperage/voltage when getting hot or after being under load, is one in the same so to speak - resistance causes heat, and heat incresases resistance. Dog chasing its tail or the snowball effect.... Poor connections are the culprit, either in the wiring terminals (loose or corroded) or poor contact by the switch or breaker.
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Yes, you could wire it like a car to start with the ignition switch rather than the button. Or you could wire it so the switch would have to be in the spring-loaded position before the start button would work, And you could wire it so you'd have ignition (and acc) on the acc position and lights plus ignition with the "on" position. Lots of options...
But one thing to consider, if your actual switch lock works, I'd do the relay thing for acc. (I'm forgetting all about the fork lock feature ever working) Also, if it won't lock the **** in the "lock" position, it's supposed to also lock the **** in the acc position. Might check that out for the heck of it. If that is something you'd live with, you'd tie the acc breaker to the ign and disconnect the acc wire from the switch alltogether.
Losing amperage/voltage when getting hot or after being under load, is one in the same so to speak - resistance causes heat, and heat incresases resistance. Dog chasing its tail or the snowball effect.... Poor connections are the culprit, either in the wiring terminals (loose or corroded) or poor contact by the switch or breaker.
But one thing to consider, if your actual switch lock works, I'd do the relay thing for acc. (I'm forgetting all about the fork lock feature ever working) Also, if it won't lock the **** in the "lock" position, it's supposed to also lock the **** in the acc position. Might check that out for the heck of it. If that is something you'd live with, you'd tie the acc breaker to the ign and disconnect the acc wire from the switch alltogether.
Losing amperage/voltage when getting hot or after being under load, is one in the same so to speak - resistance causes heat, and heat incresases resistance. Dog chasing its tail or the snowball effect.... Poor connections are the culprit, either in the wiring terminals (loose or corroded) or poor contact by the switch or breaker.
I figure you are about an hour ride away from me through some of the nicest rural country in the USA - maybe I'll grab a switch, some wires, a couple of drinks and sandwiches and let you walk me through it up close and personal! I really do hate electrical stuff
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Been patiently waiting for 7 days and I've not slept in a week waiting for the outcome........ and my medication is all but gone
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T150vej to be honest I'm losing patience with this whole forum Maybe I need a new drug prescription The old ones just aren't working !!! It is kind of funny that all these bikers have questions and it gets lost somewhere in the discussion !@#$%
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Sometimes I wonder if they get (we give) too much info, but that is our nature to try to help...
Maybe some people want some techie type words to throw around at the bar, or the shop or the dealership or maybe they just want to have an idea of what they are looking at when it comes pay-up time at wherever they took it to get fixed. Heck, this time of year taking a bike to a shop - it could be a month before it even gets looked at.
But I agree, it's really is nice when guys come back and update their thread as to what went down so we can see how close (or not) we each came to hitting on it or what setup worked for them. Learn a lot that way too sometimes. And I do see a fair amount of that and usually try to let them know "we" all appreciate it, with a PM if nothing else.
Well, perhaps I've sucessfully accomplished "hijacker" status by now, so I'm gonna call my doctor (I'm sure he'll answer and be SO glad to hear from me) and ask him about the new meds I just saw on TV. Don't remember what they treated, but the side effects were deadly, so you know it's really good stuff...
Maybe some people want some techie type words to throw around at the bar, or the shop or the dealership or maybe they just want to have an idea of what they are looking at when it comes pay-up time at wherever they took it to get fixed. Heck, this time of year taking a bike to a shop - it could be a month before it even gets looked at.
But I agree, it's really is nice when guys come back and update their thread as to what went down so we can see how close (or not) we each came to hitting on it or what setup worked for them. Learn a lot that way too sometimes. And I do see a fair amount of that and usually try to let them know "we" all appreciate it, with a PM if nothing else.
Well, perhaps I've sucessfully accomplished "hijacker" status by now, so I'm gonna call my doctor (I'm sure he'll answer and be SO glad to hear from me) and ask him about the new meds I just saw on TV. Don't remember what they treated, but the side effects were deadly, so you know it's really good stuff...
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Hey George.
Yeah, maybe you need to sit back, have a beer and not worry about it. The original poster, (other George) never came back with so much as a "Gee, guys, yeah, it does that and doesn't do this" so, if the thread got hijacked, WTF.
Anyone else just feel a tremendous global tension right now? Every time we turn around, the government is telling us to bend over, that it won't hurt (much) and we'll eventually get to like it. People are starting to get pissed, and the global tension level is climbing. Even those dumb MF'ers that voted for "change" are starting to figger that something ain't right. Recognize it for what it is and relax a little.
Yeah, maybe you need to sit back, have a beer and not worry about it. The original poster, (other George) never came back with so much as a "Gee, guys, yeah, it does that and doesn't do this" so, if the thread got hijacked, WTF.
Anyone else just feel a tremendous global tension right now? Every time we turn around, the government is telling us to bend over, that it won't hurt (much) and we'll eventually get to like it. People are starting to get pissed, and the global tension level is climbing. Even those dumb MF'ers that voted for "change" are starting to figger that something ain't right. Recognize it for what it is and relax a little.
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Hey guys I'm better now I was going through one of my old leather tool kits (remember those ) from the 60's There and behold were several Rorer 714's Now life is good again ! I don't think Rorer makes them any more Oh well Those good old hippie days !