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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Wow, what a response! Thanks chaps. While my wife and I have been busy doing nothin much - well I cannot lie, buying her a new SuperLow (it had to be Merlot and they had one in the showroom, closest to the door!), you've all been busy. Should have it in a couple of weeks.

As for the sender, I have two multi-meters, an old cheap analogue one that is not very sensitive, and a supposedly good quality digital one - that is dead! Nothing, no display, no user servicable parts inside. I don't use these things very often and on an occasion when the modern one could have earned its keep, it has let me down. I shall have to call on a pal of mine who is bound to have the latest wizzbang meter.

The new sender is mostly plastic and I planned to hang it from the plastic 'top plate' that lives under the chrome tank console on these new tanks. The old Evo sender is mostly metal and quite heavy, which is why I innocently chose the newer one.

I'll go away and read through your suggestions and see what I can come up with.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Right will triumph eventually! I finally got the digital meter casing apart to find a PP9 battery in there, so I need to go out and buy a new one. Then hopefully I can follow some of your suggestions with a working meter. This sender has is mostly plastic, so I don't know how any earth can be provided. It is obviously intended to dovetail with something else inside the tank, presumably part of the pump/filter assembly.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 06:25 AM
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Does anyone have the resistance specs for the '04 and up sender?

The solution of paralleling resistance across the new sender to match the old one is sound. But remember, the sweep will not be linear.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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On the sender there may be a metal ring around one of the holes that may be the ground, or there may be a wire in the plug that is a ground that your original sender doesn't have.
There has to be a ground somewhere!!!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by big cahuna
I don't consider myself an expert, but I do have a service manual for '93-'94 Flh's. It shows on page 2-87, a diagram of the gauge/sender unit. It says a reading of 40 ohms should give you a full reading, and 250 ohms should give you an empty reading. The question now is does your new unit give those readings? Those are for use with a stock factory gauge. If they don't match right out of the box, I would think you might have to adjust the resister somehow to give you the required resistance. Hopefully the resister is external to the gas tank. Hope that sheds some light .,,
Thanks BC, pretty well what I have, 40 and 251. Installed a new battery in my digital meter and it works! So does the sender it seems.

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Does anyone have the resistance specs for the '04 and up sender?

The solution of paralleling resistance across the new sender to match the old one is sound. But remember, the sweep will not be linear.
This sender is an 08 and as you can see, seems to give the same measurements as per the Evo spec.

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On the sender there may be a metal ring around one of the holes that may be the ground, or there may be a wire in the plug that is a ground that your original sender doesn't have.
There has to be a ground somewhere!!!
John, when I first 'tested' my new sender I simply contacted the wiring harness on the bike to it. There are two wires on the bike that go to the stock sender, set into the top of the tank, and two wires on the new sender. It is very likely one of the two wires goes to ground ('earth' for UK readers!) and indeed the wiring diagram confirms that. So you're quite right!

Gentlemen, what I conclude is that my new gauge seems to be up to spec, even if on a crude out of bike test it ain't quite right, so I will set about installing it in my tank and hopefully all will be OK once it is all built up.

Thanks once more for your input and I will report back!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Yeah, sounds like it should work just fine. You probably just didn't have a good ground or other connection somewhere.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Whoa,whoa,whoa, there was a grand prize offered for the solution to this mystery. Someone has to be named so they can collect the cake and coffee. So who is the grand prize winner?.,,
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by big cahuna
Whoa,whoa,whoa, there was a grand prize offered for the solution to this mystery. Someone has to be named so they can collect the cake and coffee. So who is the grand prize winner?.,,
Having deliberated and codgitated and considered all the evidence before me I am pleased to announce BC that your outstanding contribution provided the inspiration to the solution. Or, congratulations and well done! Many thanks and coffee and fresh cake await you in P&Q!

I promise to read my workshop manual more closely in future!
 
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I love when a plan comes together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by miacycles
I love when a plan comes together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to confess to dragging my feet over this project John. I also look forward before too long to answering the absorbing question of how much these 6 gallon tanks actually hold. Of course it will only be around 5 UK gallons, but I can probably translate for the wider audience!

As for the sender, I have just about mastered the geometry of fitting it into my RG tank, off the top plate, so need to sweet-talk my brother (the one with the skills and workshop) to make up a small mounting bracket, to join the two together.

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This is what the modern fuel level sender looks like.
 
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