andrews adjustable pushrod question.
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andrews adjustable pushrod question.
ok first thing,,,correct me if i am wrong, and forgive me for being so green, I did not pay attention when I pulled the original pushrods out after I cut them,so I can not match color to valve...
front jug..front pushrod is exhaust. front jug rear pushrod is intake...
rear jug front pushrod is intake. rear jug rear push rod is exhaust.
is this correct?
ok 2nd question?
I got the andrews aluminum adjustable pushrods for my cam,lifters,bearing change. installed all and am ready to install pushrods
this may be dumb or I am just tired but i couldn't figure out how to put push rods in place,they still seem to long to go in place,adjusted to shortest point..how do you slide them into head and lifter block? any help would be appreciated...thanks
one other thing the push rods are their standard adjustable part #292110.. NOT the EZ RODS..
thought these installed WITHOUT pulling heads etc. was i wrong?
front jug..front pushrod is exhaust. front jug rear pushrod is intake...
rear jug front pushrod is intake. rear jug rear push rod is exhaust.
is this correct?
ok 2nd question?
I got the andrews aluminum adjustable pushrods for my cam,lifters,bearing change. installed all and am ready to install pushrods
this may be dumb or I am just tired but i couldn't figure out how to put push rods in place,they still seem to long to go in place,adjusted to shortest point..how do you slide them into head and lifter block? any help would be appreciated...thanks
one other thing the push rods are their standard adjustable part #292110.. NOT the EZ RODS..
thought these installed WITHOUT pulling heads etc. was i wrong?
Last edited by bubba626; Apr 25, 2011 at 10:41 PM. Reason: more info
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Question #1 You are right
Question #2 Unfortunately no, must have ez installs to put them in without at least popping the top rocker box cover... Some of these guys may have a way around loosening up everything but I don't know it.
Question #2 Unfortunately no, must have ez installs to put them in without at least popping the top rocker box cover... Some of these guys may have a way around loosening up everything but I don't know it.
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When you talk about front and rear pushrods do you mean front of bike and rear of bike or do you mean inner lifter (rear) and outer lifter (front)? If its the latter then the rear (inner) is intake on both jugs.
They should go in without pulling head or rocker gear. I fitted some SE adjustables to a Twin Cam last night and they were a **** to get short enough!!
1: check that they are all equal length? I know the exhaust ones on the SE's are longer.
2: ....if you have not done this before, make sure the top rocker cover is off so you can see that the pushrod is located in the rocker arm...they get hung up real easy.
3: If that dont work then take the adjuster nut off the pushrod and shorten rod to see if it wil fit...if it doesn't then something is very wrong.
They should go in without pulling head or rocker gear. I fitted some SE adjustables to a Twin Cam last night and they were a **** to get short enough!!
1: check that they are all equal length? I know the exhaust ones on the SE's are longer.
2: ....if you have not done this before, make sure the top rocker cover is off so you can see that the pushrod is located in the rocker arm...they get hung up real easy.
3: If that dont work then take the adjuster nut off the pushrod and shorten rod to see if it wil fit...if it doesn't then something is very wrong.
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Pushrods match what they go to. The pushrods closest to the exhaust exits control the exhaust, pushrods closets to the intake controls the intake...
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thanks, got the intake/exhaust valves correct, guess I will be pulling rocker cover to get push rods in. is there anything else I should consider other than the tocker covers. I am guessing that I would just remove the tops that are held on by 4 bolts each, correct?
thanks again.....
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Yup, the 4 rocker cover bolts then the rocker bolts. Gotta remove the rockers to slide the rods in. Good luck Bro!
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Adjustable pushrods that don't fit without pulling the rocker gear kinda defeats the whole purpose of adjustable pushrods....can you not change them for SE ones?
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"Adjustable pushrods that don't fit without pulling the rocker gear kinda defeats the whole purpose of adjustable pushrods....can you not change them for SE ones?"
I think the main benefit with the adjustables is that you can adjust the length in order to take up any play you might have after throwing in a new cam. It seems like whenever you put something back together it doesn't quite fit together with the exact same tolerances. On some engines you might be able to get adjustables in without pulling off the rocker boxes (I couldn't on my 97 Springer) but that's really what the E-Z push rods are marketed for. I didn't use E-Zs because I've heard they can be too thick at the point where they screw together, causing them to slap against the push rod covers.
I think the main benefit with the adjustables is that you can adjust the length in order to take up any play you might have after throwing in a new cam. It seems like whenever you put something back together it doesn't quite fit together with the exact same tolerances. On some engines you might be able to get adjustables in without pulling off the rocker boxes (I couldn't on my 97 Springer) but that's really what the E-Z push rods are marketed for. I didn't use E-Zs because I've heard they can be too thick at the point where they screw together, causing them to slap against the push rod covers.
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I made the mistake of buying Screaming Eagle adjustable pushrods. I didn't know they were the "non-easy" kind. I thought all adjustable pushrods could be put in without pulling the top off. I ebay'ed them at a loss and bought some Andrews that I could put in without pulling the top off. If you don't have a leak up there, leave it alone. That's my philosophy.
The adjustable but non-easy kind are handy for the home builder. To properly size the non-adjustable kind per the book, you need the special measuring tool. With the adjustables, one size fits all and you don't need the special tool.
The adjustable but non-easy kind are handy for the home builder. To properly size the non-adjustable kind per the book, you need the special measuring tool. With the adjustables, one size fits all and you don't need the special tool.
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