My 98 Fatboy has a stage one and a two into one pipe. It does just fine, starts right up runs great and gets me where I want to go. Other than a cam bearing issue (easy to fix) they are really great motors. Plus when you finally run it into the ground you can have the factory rebuild it for less than 3k and a brand new evo crate motor for less than 4k.

 

Hell, you can get the natural finish Evo crate motor for around $3000, last I checked. The black wrinkle powder coat and chrome trim add another grand.

 

The guy Dynoing the trike was either incompetent or the Trike builder made a quiet exhaust and strangled it....you should get an absolute MINIMUM of 127HP and 125TQ with a 120R

 

He had the 125 ft lbs of torque. Incompetents do not create maps from scratch.

 

Then he had good numbers....I thought you were comparing it to an almost standard bike.......not all map makers are any good, had a 1200XR Sporty done at a place other than our H-D dealer recently and they made a total pig's ear of it, had to have it re-done as it had a powerband like a 2-stroke!

 

My 96 cubic inch Evo is not standard, but it's not impractically outrageous either. It made 107 hp and 112 fp, but I wouldn't be afraid to ride it anywhere tomorrow.
The trike made 114hp and 125 tq on the same dyno, same tuner/operator, 30 minutes earlier.

Edited to add: Did the map maker you mention create from scratch, or modify an existing map, as is usually the case? (Mine is carbureted, an S&S E, BTW)

 

See the last couple of post show dyno's using maps. We older Evo owners never have to deal w/map tunes, just jets.

 

It was the first one they had ever dyno'd, did a new map which took ages but the results were stellar! They said if I changed the headers it would easily pull 135HP...that is on a 58mm throttle body, a 62mm will give around 140HP.

 

>>"they are getting old enough that some dealers will not work on them..."<<

Find yourself a dealer with mechanics who didn't graduate from MMI last week, lol! There's a damn good reason the MoCo still sells brand new '99 model year Evo motors (which you'd think would mean they should still service them) as homebuilders love them and 99% of the custom bike aftermarket is built around them. Roll up to a dealer on your Panhead looking for service and the same thing will happen. But there are plenty of Indies around who know how to keep these engines running.

If you look at reliability and ease of maintenance I think the Evo is the best engine the MoCo ever produced. In engine lineage terms it's the Shovelhead perfected. In engine esoteric terms I beleive it's a Moco engine with roots that still reach back to that wooden shed in Milwaukee. I'm not one that thinks the MoCo deliberately made the Twin Cams more dealer maintenance and repair dependent in order to drive more business into their repair bays. That was inevitable as the majority of today's 30 YO men are mechanically crippled anyway. You also have newer government standards for noise and emissions and market researchers and bean counters who worried customer might ask, "What the hell is a carburetor?"

Plus the MoCo needed a bigger engine to appeal to customers who shop horsepower (yes, we really are running out of Harley or nothing types.) And their newer touring bikes are getting a bit heavier but on a lighter weight custom bike even an otherwise stock Evo with a good carb setup and free flowing pipes works just fine. I could go on for awhile, but software downloads (maps) on a Harley? EFI? Limp mode? Parade mode? Trouble codes? We used to carry a few hand tools in a pouch now people carry a credit card and an AAA membership card, lol! Most of my younger friends do have Twin Cams they seem happy with but they also like fake **** on a woman. And truly most of the troubles I see with Evos stem simply from being totally starved of maintenance.

So enjoy your Evo! And when sitting at a stoplight next to a bud on a Twin Cam you can look over and just see him thinking, "Wow, so that's what a Harley is supposed to sound like."

 

My evo 97 RK runs great. They are easy to work on, can put out good horsepower and are dependable. I did heads and cam on mine, and with a power commander(FI) got 78HP at the rear wheel and 87ftlbs. Not super big numbers but it runs great, will keep up with 88 inch twin cams and is really simple to work on. They are bullet proof motors and provide plenty of power .