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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 05:00 AM
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Yesterday I swapped out the float needle with the one from my old carb ( old carb had a fresh rebuild kit in it ) and left fuel on overnite and it still leaked. Now if float is good and float needle is good this pretty much leaves us with the float needle seat correct? Can I dress up the seat hole any with a cone shaped diegrinder stone, I can do this by hand rather than use a die grinder or dremel if necessary ? would this help?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 07:37 AM
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I doubt it. You could try that, then get some lapping compound and work the needle/seat with it. Remember, it has to be gasoline tight.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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Ok here's where I'm at I cleaned the seat with some acetone and qutip as when as I buffed it with a materiel attachment on my dremel and didn't make a difernce so decided time to do some measureing of the float. Now I'm not sure if I measured from the right spot but I got .614 where as Dale says he normally set the float level at 0.435 , so is it me in the wrong place or what?



Now in the manual it says 1991 is 0.690- 0.730 inch where as the 1990 has a 3 sided float needle
The manual for 1992-1998 is 0.413-0.453 inch which jives with what Dale says because it is a 4 sided float needle.
The manual shows to measure my type of float from the oposite end of the float to the flange surface where as I measured from the side as shown in the pic.
Now question is am I measureing from the right place and is a bigger number going to give a higher float level or is the lower number going to give the higher float level?
Someone please verify?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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I thought you were supposed to tip the carb so the needle has no pressure from the float on it whatsoever, with the tang just barely touching it, then take your measurement.
You are, however measuring the proper spot.
A higher float level will cause the needle to seat and stop the flow of gas sooner than a lower level.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Yes I should have had it on its side. Question if I'm measuring the float wouldn't it make more scence to measure to where the float needle is being lightly pushed by the float ? Otherwise wouldn't there be play because of the float needle clip being slack and allowing the needle to not block off the fuel 100%?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 01:03 AM
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Oh so so far nothing is working, it sits for an hour and leaksout the overflow. So I'm going to try something else, I'm going to use the zinear caliper and with carb on its side measure .730 which is manual max recommendation but I'm not going to measure base to edge of float ( tried that and no good ) I'm going to measure to edge of float but with float needle pin half way compressed.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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One way to test the needle and seat is to hook up the gas line and leave the bowl off. Opperate the float maunally and if the gas flow starts and stops as it shouls, the problem is somewhere else like a bad float, float level or cracked overflow tube.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunslingertom
One way to test the needle and seat is to hook up the gas line and leave the bowl off. Opperate the float maunally and if the gas flow starts and stops as it should, the problem is somewhere else like a bad float, float level or cracked overflow tube.
That is a very good idea in theory the only problem is the carb doesn't start leaking from overflow for about 30- 45 minutes after fuel is turned on. But I will give it a try seeing I'm just about to the point of giving up and sending it back. And thats another thing, even if I send it back and he tests it and it test good is there anything at all on my end that can be causing the problem?
When I tried this last time with the zinear caliper set to 730 with float needle end pin half compressed am I actually setting it to a higher float level (more in bowl ) ?
Many articles including the manual mention nothing of setting the float level with the float needle pin compressed so I may be going at it the wrong way here.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Had another thought as you mentioned perhaps its something in the float bowl itself and in fact I got off the phone with Dale ( he just called ) and suggested taking the bowl and leaving it sit alone filled with gas. So I'm going to try that and seeing as I have my old carb I'm going to reset the float the way he just told me and put my old bowl on and see what happens.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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You might have a crack in the float. As it fills up over time it gets heavier and pulls the needle out of its seat
 
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