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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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Hi Guy's I think I'm going to change the cam in my other wise stock 95 FXDL
It does have a High flow air filter and short shot pipes and has been jetted but other than that it is stock with 28000 miles
I think I have narrowed the cane choice to either a Woods W8 or an EV27 cam
Funds are tight so I can't afford any head or jug work at this time.
Do you think I will notice a difference in just doing the cam or should I wait until I can get head and piston work done?

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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 07:05 AM
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When I changed my stock cam out for an EV-27 I noticed a big difference.

Go ahead and change your cam. I think you will be very happy with the results.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 07:26 AM
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W8 will have to have the compression bumped up, 47 intake closing is going to make it soft on the bottom side without 9.8-1 to 10.0-1 compression. Going to need valve springs to handle the 590 lift also, you are starting to jump into the street big boy world with numbers of the W8 but get your heads done and pistons with the W8 in a light bike and you will be yellin "I'm a big boy now"

With a stock based engine, your cam choices are limited to a "bolt in" design which is 510 lift and under as the EV27 and W6 are compression builders by intake closing design and get their giddy up that way. Heads, compression and light bike opens up alot of choices in cam, most are happy with a EV27 for performance and some get "I need more" addiction and that is why I mentioned what is needed when going past bolt in cams and a plan is needed as coin becomes involved and a good package of choices put together or you will still have a slug per coin invested.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Thanks For the input..It does not look like there is much of a difference between the W6 or the EV-27 cams. Just need to decide which company I want to go with. I guess I should also look at quick install push rods and new lifters. Is there a preference to which ones to use? Do you think I am ok keeping the stock ignition for a while?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 09:44 AM
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Woods cams are serious stuff, not for the feint hearted! Scott of HDF sponsor Hillside Cycle is a big user and can advise on how to use them. For a simple bolt-in cam an EV27 will be trouble-free and economical, it's also probably the favourite cam for first time Evo tuners. If you search for 'EV27' you will be flooded with past posts, it is that popular.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Scudda
Thanks For the input..It does not look like there is much of a difference between the W6 or the EV-27 cams. Just need to decide which company I want to go with. I guess I should also look at quick install push rods and new lifters. Is there a preference to which ones to use? Do you think I am ok keeping the stock ignition for a while?
Yes and yes on lifters and adjustable push rods, spend the money and get name brand push rods like Andrews, I have Screamin Eagles and not excited about the difficulty of cam change with them but others like them, stay away from Ebay cheapies and also put a inner bearing in it.

The EV27 is rock solid and works good with stock compression, W6 is a great cam but also can use some compression to get the most out of it. The stock ignition will work with the EV27 and Harley "B" lifters are as good as it gets. Carb adjustment will also be needed and Spanners and the boys should come along and help with that.

As a rule of thumb, the intake valve closing number controls cylinder pressure, EV27 is at 36 and W6 is 40 so the EV27 will push the stock 8.5-1 up some but fade slightly earlier, Woods cams are based on a race design and need more attention to detail but are also dependable when right and hiding just waiting to be unleashed, I've got the W6H which is a W6 on steroids and have made several 3 day rides and 5 days in Sturgis so the Woods can hide like a mouse and come out to play like big cats when called upon,
 

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I don't have an ev27, I have a Headquarters rumble stick and mine kicks in at about 2800-3000 rpm. Any cam is going to give you more giddy up.
 
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I have about $1000 budgeted for this upgrade . I just want to make sure it is spent on the correct parts. The carb has already been modified with a cv performance kit and Jetted for my setup now. I am looking for all around torque gain as I fully believe I will feel torque better than HP with a stock motor. I used to wrench on cars and build big and small block chevy street motors...I will say after doing all the reading I am a little nervous about doing this myself
 
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Originally Posted by Scudda
I have about $1000 budgeted for this upgrade . I just want to make sure it is spent on the correct parts. The carb has already been modified with a cv performance kit and Jetted for my setup now. I am looking for all around torque gain as I fully believe I will feel torque better than HP with a stock motor. I used to wrench on cars and build big and small block chevy street motors...I will say after doing all the reading I am a little nervous about doing this myself
Nothing to doing a cam job, get yourself some andrews quick install pushrods and snip out the old,then follow the instruction here, http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/hdcaminstall00.htm
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RidemyEVO
I don't have an ev27, I have a Headquarters rumble stick and mine kicks in at about 2800-3000 rpm. Any cam is going to give you more giddy up.
Is that the HQ-24? Headquarters has been around for a while and a good name, cam has a 36 intake closing so it is a compression builder but some different numbers with duration, how far (rpm"s) does it go before falling off?
 
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