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Stock 80" compression is 8.5/1. Since you basicaly have a stock 80". I would 10/1 or 10.5/1 pistons, port the heads & have them shaved dn , With a good cam, 2 into 1 pipes. That should give all or more than you want.
97bagger--------------------talk about compression releases in the heads and your experiences,I have heard multiple theories on this with evos
Don't have them currently and the engine is set up at 9.8-1 with a 40 degree intake closing W6H around 185 cranking compression , a Alls ***** starter and new battery whips the engine over in any condition, battery is now 3 years old and I've had to bounce the engine after shutting it off in 90 degree heat so I'm at my edge of cranking compression. I made a mistake on my previous engine with too much compression and earlier intake closing cam, starter eater and detonation prone, Instead of compression releases it was smarter to reconfigure the engine with less compression so garble I throw out is from mistakes made which is my teacher. I had a well established engine builder help me set up the compression based on years and years of engine building and he bases his engines off Florida heat for safety guidelines(detonation)
Cranking compression into the 200 range is probable for compression releases but that much compression is also going to be a fight to control detonation so I don't think that type of compression is worth the fight from my experiance with the previous setup I was running. One tank of low octane gas and on the edge of damaging a piston.
Hopefully someone on here with an Ultima will chime in on their compression release reliability, I have heard of the releases carboning up and not working right but no real world experiance
I have to bounce mine on a hot day as well.I have been told they carbon as well as weaken the heads on a evo due to smaller bore and release placement .I cant decide to rebuild with more inches or just try a different cam profile.
Drop your intake closing back a couple of degrees and keep the duration close, it will relieve some air and maynot notice any low side power loss.
I do know when I had my headwork done, checked the heads for cracks before sending them out and bigger than crap, one of them was cracked from the valve seat to spark plug hole so I can see your concerns
Last edited by 1997bagger; Jan 24, 2013 at 11:05 PM.
The S&S spec says it isn't EPA compliant, so it will give better performance than a stock Harley engine, despite having a similar CR. It is aimed at being a direct replacement, with a little icing and a cherry on the top!
Frankly seems odd to buy a new engine and then start modifying it, when a 96 or 107 or bigger will get straight there. I suggest running it as it is for a couple of thousand miles, to see just how it runs. You have the rest of time to modify it if necessary!
My wee S&S 107 is fine, but Hillside do a very appealing upgrade to 125-ish HP/TQ. There is no end to all this....
The S&S spec says it isn't EPA compliant, so it will give better performance than a stock Harley engine, despite having a similar CR. It is aimed at being a direct replacement, with a little icing and a cherry on the top!
Frankly seems odd to buy a new engine and then start modifying it, when a 96 or 107 or bigger will get straight there. I suggest running it as it is for a couple of thousand miles, to see just how it runs. You have the rest of time to modify it if necessary!
My wee S&S 107 is fine, but Hillside do a very appealing upgrade to 125-ish HP/TQ. There is no end to all this....
I didn't buy this engine, It came with the bike. That's why I really don't know much about it.
I totally agree though, If I were to buy another complete engine, why wouldn't anyone want to go bigger?? lol
If you haven't ridden it yet, keep your cash for gas! Ride it for the summer and if it isn't as strong as you would like, you have had time to learn more about Harleys and S&S motors and be in a better position to start modifying it. As you will already have discovered there is no single way ahead - there are as many opinions as the number of people you ask!
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