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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 08:18 AM
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Hey all, I know its a wiring issue but ive been told to look all over the place and have for a short. New battery, regulator etc. I can start bike up and leave switch at run position runs fine. I can be riding and switch to lights and its like i knocked a cylinder out. Then it may catch and go fine, go to stop, pull clutch in, hit brakes and idle changes. I changed all relays/breakers and cleaned all connections going to them and changed the ends on them. I check voltage at coil its 12.6 running on run, then change to lights it drops to in the 11s. Still, that shouldnt be enuf drop when the book says it will run on 5.
 

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Just a guess but that's pretty low voltage. Sure its chargin? It should be around 13.8 - 14.2 with just running high idle nothing on? 11 volts its gonna skip most likely. Head lights function not running OK not one light out or shorted?
Check all the grounds Most times it comes down to them in almost all stuff we fix electrical.
Could also have a bad diode and be only charging a bit
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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This is an option, I would do this (and did) anyway, on our old bikes.

Could have high resistance in the handle bar kill switch, for example.

http://www.daytona-twintec.com/downl...structions.pdf
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Schex3x
This is an option, I would do this (and did) anyway, on our old bikes.

Could have high resistance in the handle bar kill switch, for example.

http://www.daytona-twintec.com/downl...structions.pdf
Thats mostly for start up and is a good fix on big inch stuff with little starters. But i don't think that's his problem
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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I have to agree with Bumpandrun.

It sounds like you have a charging problem.
All the numbers you posted are low.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumpandrun
Thats mostly for start up and is a good fix on big inch stuff with little starters. But i don't think that's his problem
...and old bikes with inferior electical systems.

I agree, something else is going on, needs to check for correct charging, then compare batt voltage to whats at the coil.
Jump a wire from the coil to the battery, see what happens.

Still, I can't see a downside to full current to the ignition system.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by billzflhtc
... I can start bike up and leave switch at run position runs fine. I can be riding and switch to lights and its like I knocked a cylinder out. Then it may catch and go fine, go to stop, pull clutch in, hit brakes and idle changes....
Think with that stated the first thing I would do is to check your switch for a short. They are pretty basic. Contacts at light portion may be bad, corroded or just need cleaning.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by billzflhtc
Hey all, I know its a wiring issue but ive been told to look all over the place and have for a short. New battery, regulator etc. I can start bike up and leave switch at run position runs fine. I can be riding and switch to lights and its like i knocked a cylinder out. Then it may catch and go fine, go to stop, pull clutch in, hit brakes and idle changes. I changed all relays/breakers and cleaned all connections going to them and changed the ends on them. I check voltage at coil its 12.6 running on run, then change to lights it drops to in the 11s. Still, that shouldnt be enuf drop when the book says it will run on 5.
Older bikes develope wiring troubles , yours sounds like trouble in the light circuit . I suspect a worn lamp harness is shorting to ground to actually effect the motor . There is no easy way to track a bad circuit but i first suggest you try to duplicate the parameters that lead to the failure and then check to see if the lamps are all as bright as they should be . From there you can " wiggle test " the wires and harnesses to try to pin point the problem area.
This is a time consuming and bitch of a process , so cold brews are essential.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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Well I know that whoever used to own it before the person I bought it from, wired the spot/fog lights into the main switch and did away with the toggle. It is still there, just not hooked up and all lights come on when you turn the headlight on. I have always thot that would/could be a prob down the road. I have a complete main wire harness i bought from pinwall already and have what they called the front wire harness on the way from same bike I won on ebay last nite. (Figure may as well go with a known than trying to hunt down. Hopefully that will solve my problems. Thank you all for the insight. Only other thing I can think of is find an ignition switch. as someone said. I dont think I can take this yr apart and clean contacts tho.
 

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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 09:56 PM
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Before you mess with ignition switch run a hot wire like somebody already said and see if that kills the problem.Pull the other + wire off the coil so no bike wiring. But i am telling you VOLTAGE is too low. Short would have blown a fuse or burned a wire. Start unpluging lights one at a time. But i still think your going in the wrong direction till you see 13.8 to 14.2 voltage at high idle.
 
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