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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by aces&8s
Sorry there slick but you better go check your own chart. What I wrote is correct. Maybe you should stay with HVAC.
I don't think so, A&8. You too, HVAC guy.

A&8 said:

You said:
volts x amps = watts. or ohms x amps = watts

Watts (power) is calculated as Volts * Current (Amps). That part is correct. However, using the formula helper that HVAC guy posted (E over IR), which is the standard way to learn this stuff for the past forever, E is equal to IR, which means Electromotive Force (Volts) = Current (Amps) * Resistance. Keeping it simple (using the units),

Volts * Amps = Watts
Volts = Amps * Resistance (Ohms)

Substituting for Volts gives:
Amps * Ohms * Amps = Watts,

or R * I^2 = Watts, or said differently, the resistance in ohms times current squared is Watts.

HVAC guy had it wrong in that watts is not amps divided by ohms, but amps squared times ohms. Note that Power (Watts) are not in the E over IR equation at all.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.Hess
I don't think so, A&8. You too, HVAC guy.

A&8 said:

You said:
volts x amps = watts. or ohms x amps = watts

Watts (power) is calculated as Volts * Current (Amps). That part is correct. However, using the formula helper that HVAC guy posted (E over IR), which is the standard way to learn this stuff for the past forever, E is equal to IR, which means Electromotive Force (Volts) = Current (Amps) * Resistance. Keeping it simple (using the units),

Volts * Amps = Watts
Volts = Amps * Resistance (Ohms)

Substituting for Volts gives:
Amps * Ohms * Amps = Watts,

or R * I^2 = Watts, or said differently, the resistance in ohms times current squared is Watts.

HVAC guy had it wrong in that watts is not amps divided by ohms, but amps squared times ohms. Note that Power (Watts) are not in the E over IR equation at all.
You are correct about "squared", but that was not the context of what Aces&8s said. Also, I never said that "watts is amps divided by ohms"; I only mentioned Ohm`s Law for Aces&8s to fully understand his error.
 

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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Please excuse me but I do know how to work ohms law formulas even if I cant type.
 
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Originally Posted by hvacgaspiping
So, which is it? You can`t have it both ways. Do you know the difference between a volt and an ohm? From what you wrote here it doesn`t appear that you do. I stand by what I already said.
volts=electromotive force. ohms=resistance. amps=current. watts=power.
Next question professor.
 
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Originally Posted by aces&8s
volts=electromotive force. ohms=resistance. amps=current. watts=power.
Next question professor.
That`s already been determined, and you`ve totally missed the point. I`m not going to waste any more time on this.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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[QUOTE=hvacgaspiping;12164626]The second part is corrected as: amps DIVIDED by ohms. Remember the "pie" chart and you won`t go wrong:

E = volts, I = amps, R = ohms ; where E = I times R
R = E divided by I
and, I = E divided by R
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Still don't see your" amps divided by ohms "on any chart.?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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[quote=aces&8s;12165144]
Originally Posted by hvacgaspiping
The second part is corrected as: amps DIVIDED by ohms. Remember the "pie" chart and you won`t go wrong:

E = volts, I = amps, R = ohms ; where E = I times R
R = E divided by I
and, I = E divided by R
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Still don't see your" amps divided by ohms "on any chart.?
Yeah, I don`t see it either, but I tried to post it. I guess the server won`t show it the way I tried to do so. Anyway, it`s the same chart you will find in any HVAC or electrician handbook or study textbook. It simplifies remembering each of the three formulae.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Hope this helps but I still don't see your " I div by R".
 
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Originally Posted by aces&8s
Hope this helps but I still don't see your " I div by R".
I didn`t say that. I said, " I = E divided by R". And look at the 7 `oclock position in your "pie" chart.
 
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you corrected my watts formula... and now want to say your correct by a amps formula???????? I think I am done here professor.........
 
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