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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 07:06 AM
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just started the wiring on my 84 fltc evo

I have had it running couple times, I over tightened post on solenoid when I noticed it was kind of loose
disconnected the battery to replace it .....had a short ( major sparks @ battery cable)
put on the new solenoid still getting the sparks!
unplugged the front harness and every thing I could find
rear light harness is disconnected

solenoid is still wired ( correctly ....according to the book!)
no change

I have the + battery connected
but the ground cable still lights up my tester when touched to battery -

what is my next step???
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also have a yellow in line fuse wire coming off of my instrument panel harness no idea where the other half of that is or where it leads
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 08:36 AM
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What exactly does "I have the + battery connected but the ground cable still lights up my tester when touched to battery -" mean? What are the 2 points your tester light are connected to? Where are the sparks coming from? I am suspecting a bad ground strap and/or cable or a corroded connection.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:07 AM
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Do you mean you over tightened the post on the starter relay under the seat?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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This is the most confusing thing I have read . First start with your problem ie: not cranking , slow cranking , starter staying engaged . Then what you have replaced so far from there we should be able to get you headed in the rite direction
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:44 AM
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my tester is clipped to the ground cable and lights up when touched to the neg post of the battery,
I didn't have the neg cable connected to the battery, because I know there is a short somewhere and don't want to fry anything trying to start so don't know if it will crank or not when I did touch the neg cable to battery it sparked but didn't kick in the starter solenoid
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 10:11 AM
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Ok I think I know where your at you have a draw on your elec. system . Unhook your b+ solenoid wire and see if test light goes out if not start working your way forward on your wiring diagram .
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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The '84 has a large starter relay(or solenoid) under the seat, correct?

Where the positive from the battery is connected to the relay, there is a smaller wire also connected there, running to the main breaker, disconnect that wire from the main breaker and see if it still draws or sparks when you touch the battery (-) to the battery.

Looks like the hot wire from the regulator runs to that post also, on the unprotected side of the main breaker, could be a shorted regulator, caused from the arc welding that went on.
 

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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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I unhooked the main breaker and the starter relay sill drawing
if I disconnect the battery + from the solenoid it will completely disconnect the battery from the system. there will be no power to draw from
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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OK, your test light (I hate those things) lit because of your short, and, in this case, I think that is an acceptable use for a test light (did I mention I hate those things?) Find/fix that short first. Start disconnecting breakers until your test there doesn't light. Better is to get a proper ohm meter and check with the battery disconnected between the battery cables on a low ohms scale. When you disconnect whatever is shorting, the reading should go high.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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Did you disconnect the wire from the regulator from the main breaker?

Is the solenoid you replaced under the seat?
 

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