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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 03:10 AM
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Here is my issue: I have a 96 electra glide with a 127 super g xxx carb 2 into 1 pipe with ultima / 2000i programmable ignition. 450cc battery 1.7 ultima starter High quality cables ect ect. battery full charged. I have gone through 2 clutch basket ring gears and 3 starter gears. The damn thing is supposed to be set to 3 dead revs, no spark . But this thing tries to start at the first hint of me pushing starter button. the Kicks back like a sumbitch..... should I retard the ignition scrap this one ?? Not use the choke when starting??
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 04:46 AM
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No, just get compression releases fitted......I have a Chopper that I look after for someone with a similar motor, he stubbornly refuses to fit CR's and goes through batteries and starter parts like you wouldn't believe.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by brad75raiders
The damn thing is supposed to be set to 3 dead revs, no spark . But this thing tries to start at the first hint of me pushing starter button. the Kicks back like a sumbitch.....

Solve the dead rev problem, and your broken parts will stop.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 05:07 AM
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forgott to mention I have compression release buttons. the must close toooo damn fast....
I found a comp cable kit to program the ignition.....
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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Check if the comp releases are actually working, or venting, could have a plugged port.

I take it the problem mostly happens when the engine is still warm, it's probably firing off on compression alone, and the dead rev setting won't help that.

Carbon buildup in the chambers maybe?,may need to spray some seafoam in the carb while running to get some carbon out.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 06:23 AM
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Only happens when cold first start of the day. after that fires first crack everytime no kickback ....???? Wierd
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Could have a lifter bleeding down?


http://www.sscycle.com/files/4813/7033/9848/51-1039.pdf


2T kit is that if a valve is

held open when the engine is not running, valve spring pressure

will not cause lifters to bleed down and collapse. Collapsed lifters

can cause hard starting and excessive valve train noise when

engine is restarted. Adjustable pushrods must be used with the

HL2T Kit.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 07:30 AM
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on shop hot rods years back we ran into this issue and originally -- we re wire the start kill switch / horn switch and using both hands you can crank the engine and then flip the horn switch IE now the kill switch -- after the motor is cranking to start as some bikes need to be fueled as soon as they go - it takes a bit to get useto and riding another bike you will always blow the horn instead of starting it hahahahahahahha

the second design as also to re wire the start stop switch but using two hands on the throttel side one can press the start buttom get the starter going, then flip the kill swich to fire the motor most of the guy prefer this set up

CAUTION : you can now when the ignition is on crank the bike in gear on the kickstand ( it will fall over not if ) unless you use the netural switch as a safety -- johnjzjz
 
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 08:04 PM
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Well figured it out. Rear cyl compression realease closing to fast. I simply hold it down while cranking the engine fires and I let go! Easy fix. Thanks for all the comments.
Brad
 
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Its not a dirty compression release just an overzelous one....
 
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