Are there any positive pay offs because it won't stop the guys who just pick them up and put them in the back of trucks.

Is it also an inbuilt tracking device which citizens have access to if they bike gets lifted?

(Still a waste of time unless there are many and hidden inside the frame as the thieves will just rip them off first).

I can see lot of material for comedy in these developments. At least it might stop drunks from riding. What happens if you forget your PIN? Do H-D charge you for hacking into remotely to start it for you? Or do you have to truck it to the nearest dealership and buy a new module?

 

I got a new cell phone last year. After a few months, I noticed that a little thing would pop up and say something like "Drive time to work is 22 minutes, 3 minutes slower than normal".

I don't remember ever telling it where I worked. Or where I live for that matter. So then it occurred to me that what it is doing is monitoring my daily driving pattern, and figuring it out from there. And then it occurred to me that the data it is presenting to me about drive times is based on an analysis of all the other people with similar driving patterns and similar phones.

It's all very lovely and convenient, and more than a little creepy.

 

If I remember correctly, it has a default PIN. The salesman told us that if we buy the bike and change the PIN, we are supposed to notify the dealer as to what we changed it to. Otherwise they have no way to hack into it either.

What scared me with it is not forgetting the PIN or any of that. It is, what happens when the system fails to work when the bike is out of warranty and it just displays "BOOT SECTOR ERROR" on the screen? So you take it to the dealer and they say, "Oh, that was obsolete a couple years ago - you now have to upgrade your computer to version 2.0 for $9,000."

Ummmm..... Right.

 

More likely they'll tell you you are SOL, but they'd be happy to make you a deal on one of the wonderful new 2028 models.

 

But your need to upgrade your Batwing and inner console to fit the v 2.0 module.

$3,000.

 

WOW. You guys are seriously paranoid!!

 

Nope, not paranoid. We like ridin, wrenchin, modifyin, babes and beer. Software updates in our Harleys - not so much.

 

Just think what happens if you lose your key along with the FOB? You're out a few dollars for a new key and $40 to $50 for a new FOB. And that's cheap compared to what some of the car manufacturers are charging.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/the-...your-keys.html

 

There is one other fairly important item that I can think of. An older riding buddy of mine (age is mid 60's, rides an '06 TC Ultra) always complains about the engine heat when we get stuck in traffic. I attend a number of rallies and engine heat is a common complaint among owners. I'm guessing this is enough of an issue for many people that it affects new motorcycle sales.

 

I loved my '88 EVO. No issues, no leaks. I love my current '10 TC96. No issues, no leaks. I had a few minor issues with my shovelhead, but I did not hate it as it was all there was. It did weep oil, at least it got the oil sheen. I never had to add any oil, but I had to wipe it off.
I have an EVO now as a guest rider. Not my original, this one came with only 9000 miles!!!