Is this for real??
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Is this for real??
I'm looking to have my bikes engine modified and I find this place that's saying:
Total cost about $4000
95 CI
cams,head work and SERT
results: 90+ HP 100+ torque
More head work -- Total cost about $5000
100-110 HP
110+ Torque
They look reputable and the person(s) I talked to seem honest and straight forward
But this is a lot of HP and Torque for 95 CI
Tell me what you think -- Thanks
Total cost about $4000
95 CI
cams,head work and SERT
results: 90+ HP 100+ torque
More head work -- Total cost about $5000
100-110 HP
110+ Torque
They look reputable and the person(s) I talked to seem honest and straight forward
But this is a lot of HP and Torque for 95 CI
Tell me what you think -- Thanks
Tourer
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From: PA
RE: Is this for real??
That's very possible I have an 02 fatboy with a 95" putting out 100hp and 105 lbs of tq which I'm selling the top end (asking around $1,200.00) it has 7,000 miles on it, it includes the juggs, pistons 10.5 to 1and ported heads with compression releases installed and redshift 577 cams it's a zipper's big bore kit, latr
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RE: Is this for real??
seems freaking high to me. Not power output but cost. I am at ~high 90's torq and 87hp and I have stock 06 heads with minor work done by steve at GMR $275 (the heads were a push as I sold my 04 heads for what I paid for the 06 heads $150), I had stock cylinders bored by Dan Baisley $150, bought 95 SE flat tops for $90 NIB off the swap meet section, gasket kit from GMR $103 included head gaskets, Andrews 26G's from AMS $525.
I did the labor myself. So saying I wanted to get more power i would need a bit more head work and bigger cams. Say I added 500 for more head work and bigger cams would have cost the same. that is still leaving over $2000 for labor. I did the entire build in one day.
I did the labor myself. So saying I wanted to get more power i would need a bit more head work and bigger cams. Say I added 500 for more head work and bigger cams would have cost the same. that is still leaving over $2000 for labor. I did the entire build in one day.
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RE: Is this for real??
I got full HQ 95 kit with head work for under 2500$ Im carbed though.
105 hp 112 Torque
My labor, and 400$ in special tools from Jims and Snap on not included in price.
105 hp 112 Torque
My labor, and 400$ in special tools from Jims and Snap on not included in price.
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RE: Is this for real??
When you figure in gaskets, plugs, oil, filter, labor, tune, etc etc etc the price go up very quickly. It's fairly cheap to get 80/90 a lot more to get 100/100 and a lot more to get 105/105 and mega bucks to get 110/110 from a 95' motor.
You guys can say $4500.00 to $5500.00 bucks is a rip all you want but bottom line adding up all the expence this is what they cost.
You guys can say $4500.00 to $5500.00 bucks is a rip all you want but bottom line adding up all the expence this is what they cost.
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RE: Is this for real??
I agree that experience counts a whole lot. For example what would GMR charge for an equivalent build?
By the way a dyno tune is an extra $375.00 and this puzzles me. Who would build such a motor and let the customer go without a good dyno tune?
By the way a dyno tune is an extra $375.00 and this puzzles me. Who would build such a motor and let the customer go without a good dyno tune?
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RE: Is this for real??
Here is one example of a build GMR just did for a member in my Heritage Springer group.
edit* Also, many builders don't want to dyno a new build til at least the 500 mile break in..Usually not part of the build cost.
edit* Also, many builders don't want to dyno a new build til at least the 500 mile break in..Usually not part of the build cost.
The engine spec's are as follows:
GMR in Prescott Az put a big bore kit in jackin er up to 98 cubes, should put out up to 110 hp
98 inch kit with 3CC CP forged pistions
Andrews 37G cam 510 lift
Andrews Gear drive install kit
Andrews four gear set Inner and outer gear drive kit for 99-06 (not dyna) for gear drive cams
Stage 111 CNC Heads 1.9 intake valves, 1.625ex
Cometic top end gasket kit
Push rod covers for use with adjustable pushrods
4130 chrome/moly pushrods. Not quick intstall
With the oil & filter plus labour the total cost came to $3,377.93
GMR in Prescott Az put a big bore kit in jackin er up to 98 cubes, should put out up to 110 hp
98 inch kit with 3CC CP forged pistions
Andrews 37G cam 510 lift
Andrews Gear drive install kit
Andrews four gear set Inner and outer gear drive kit for 99-06 (not dyna) for gear drive cams
Stage 111 CNC Heads 1.9 intake valves, 1.625ex
Cometic top end gasket kit
Push rod covers for use with adjustable pushrods
4130 chrome/moly pushrods. Not quick intstall
With the oil & filter plus labour the total cost came to $3,377.93
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RE: Is this for real??
hspring
Is there a compression release needed for this build?
Is the gear drive needed or just recommended? I'll heard a lot of stories about noise with the gear drives.
By the way thanks for the info.
Is there a compression release needed for this build?
Is the gear drive needed or just recommended? I'll heard a lot of stories about noise with the gear drives.
By the way thanks for the info.