Dollars/HP increase?
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I assume you are joking? So let me get this straight. You're statng that a tricked out 800 pound bike with lets say..120 hp? ok 150hp will out accelerate a 250 lb sport bike with 165 hp? BTW, my zx1100 is stock (except for a header).
The only thing you would see is my tail lights. You're HD gonna do 200mph is 20 seconds or less..please.
I love my Harley (s). My 95ci Roadglide is my favorite and will keep up with most V Twin (with over 100hp and 127ft lbs of torque,) but to state that it will out perform a High Performce Jap bikes is ludricous.
The only thing you would see is my tail lights. You're HD gonna do 200mph is 20 seconds or less..please.
I love my Harley (s). My 95ci Roadglide is my favorite and will keep up with most V Twin (with over 100hp and 127ft lbs of torque,) but to state that it will out perform a High Performce Jap bikes is ludricous.
You got some fuzzy math there also. The Busa's are over 500lbs and the 1000's are over 400lbs.
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Not trying to sell motors-just preachin' the value of a good education!
Love these debates!
Sportbikes are amazing machines-freeway or open road they will walk away from even the fastest HD but they are vulnerable at a stoplight or
short burst roll-on race.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/off-t...reet-ride.html
Love these debates!
Sportbikes are amazing machines-freeway or open road they will walk away from even the fastest HD but they are vulnerable at a stoplight or
short burst roll-on race.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/off-t...reet-ride.html
Last edited by PWMORRIS; Dec 9, 2009 at 02:34 PM.
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Not trying to sell motors-just preachin' the value of a good education!
Love these debates!
Sportbikes are amazing machines-freeway or open road they will walk away from even the fastest HD but they are vulnerable at a stoplight or
short burst roll-on race.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/off-t...reet-ride.html
Love these debates!
Sportbikes are amazing machines-freeway or open road they will walk away from even the fastest HD but they are vulnerable at a stoplight or
short burst roll-on race.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/off-t...reet-ride.html
granted a 600 is better game to play with then a 1000 or zx 1100 or a busa.,
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I assume you are joking? So let me get this straight. You're statng that a tricked out 800 pound bike with lets say..120 hp? ok 150hp will out accelerate a 250 lb sport bike with 165 hp? BTW, my zx1100 is stock (except for a header).
The only thing you would see is my tail lights. You're HD gonna do 200mph is 20 seconds or less..please.
I love my Harley (s). My 95ci Roadglide is my favorite and will keep up with most V Twin (with over 100hp and 127ft lbs of torque,) but to state that it will out perform a High Performce Jap bikes is ludricous.
The only thing you would see is my tail lights. You're HD gonna do 200mph is 20 seconds or less..please.
I love my Harley (s). My 95ci Roadglide is my favorite and will keep up with most V Twin (with over 100hp and 127ft lbs of torque,) but to state that it will out perform a High Performce Jap bikes is ludricous.
Sorry if you cannot accept that, but it are, what it are.
Bob Wood's personal 124" has 150 square, with a 4.08 gear and he absoluetly PILE-DRIVES V-Max's into total embarrasment, as per him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless you have ridden one of these mentioned machines, or witnessed this display first hand, you would doubt. But don't.
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250 kawa ninja she devil...
The debate has gone long. I still think the little Kawa 250 will sting a beefed up big twin harley from 0-70. I had a 250 and now own a '09 dyna so I kinda know.
Those bigger Ninja's and GSXR's are just plain godawful scary things in terms of their power, handling, quick wind up, braking, etc. Regular mortals should not ride them to their full potential.
I gotta say I love those bikes....they are fast and beautiful... but I can't get one because I want to live a nice long life.
So, I'll be stylin' on my dyna for a good long time I hope. They are plenty cool!
Those bigger Ninja's and GSXR's are just plain godawful scary things in terms of their power, handling, quick wind up, braking, etc. Regular mortals should not ride them to their full potential.
I gotta say I love those bikes....they are fast and beautiful... but I can't get one because I want to live a nice long life.
So, I'll be stylin' on my dyna for a good long time I hope. They are plenty cool!
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at 70 mph i am right in the lower part of the rpm range where my engine starts to quiet down and smoth out . if ya know what i mean.
from a dead stop i will run neck and neck with a 1000 up to about 100 mph or maybe a tad more then they start to pull away if i limit my wheel spin and start in second and a lot of clutch illl get a good 1-1 1/2 bike length on them . depends on the weather too cold or cool ill spin tire all the way thru 2nd and 3rd gear.
so if you think a little 250 is going to keep up when i stay with a 1000 your dreamin ..
maybe a 250 will beat the snot out of a stock bike but thereare guys on this forum who build/built some real nasty v-twins. and there are guys on this forum like PW who make it a habit to beat them at the track with a worked bikes.
do not underestimate a 117 ,120 ,124 or 126 ci motors they will hurt ya if you are not careful.
these bikes are not easy to ride but must be ridden with the utmost respect just like the sport bikes they are not machines you get on and think you just turn the throttle and go fast any fool can go fast in a streight line alls it takes is a motorcycle and a fool.
get some time in the saddle of a real sport bike or a hot rodded harley and you will see. i know guys who race on weekends at the track and very good. 1000cc bikes at the track will hurt ya and a harley with 140 ft lbs of tq and hp will do the same.
if you lived closer to me i would have ya come by and you take your bike and ill take mine and you will see.
from a dead stop i will run neck and neck with a 1000 up to about 100 mph or maybe a tad more then they start to pull away if i limit my wheel spin and start in second and a lot of clutch illl get a good 1-1 1/2 bike length on them . depends on the weather too cold or cool ill spin tire all the way thru 2nd and 3rd gear.
so if you think a little 250 is going to keep up when i stay with a 1000 your dreamin ..
maybe a 250 will beat the snot out of a stock bike but thereare guys on this forum who build/built some real nasty v-twins. and there are guys on this forum like PW who make it a habit to beat them at the track with a worked bikes.
do not underestimate a 117 ,120 ,124 or 126 ci motors they will hurt ya if you are not careful.
these bikes are not easy to ride but must be ridden with the utmost respect just like the sport bikes they are not machines you get on and think you just turn the throttle and go fast any fool can go fast in a streight line alls it takes is a motorcycle and a fool.
get some time in the saddle of a real sport bike or a hot rodded harley and you will see. i know guys who race on weekends at the track and very good. 1000cc bikes at the track will hurt ya and a harley with 140 ft lbs of tq and hp will do the same.
if you lived closer to me i would have ya come by and you take your bike and ill take mine and you will see.
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The debate has gone long. I still think the little Kawa 250 will sting a beefed up big twin harley from 0-70. I had a 250 and now own a '09 dyna so I kinda know.
Those bigger Ninja's and GSXR's are just plain godawful scary things in terms of their power, handling, quick wind up, braking, etc. Regular mortals should not ride them to their full potential.
I gotta say I love those bikes....they are fast and beautiful... but I can't get one because I want to live a nice long life.
So, I'll be stylin' on my dyna for a good long time I hope. They are plenty cool!
Those bigger Ninja's and GSXR's are just plain godawful scary things in terms of their power, handling, quick wind up, braking, etc. Regular mortals should not ride them to their full potential.
I gotta say I love those bikes....they are fast and beautiful... but I can't get one because I want to live a nice long life.
So, I'll be stylin' on my dyna for a good long time I hope. They are plenty cool!
