95" Kit
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95" Kit
Just wondering what you all think of the 95" kit is it worth it or not? I love the the way the Springer run's (pipes, intake, racetuner) and even though I just turned over 500 mi. on it and know that it will get better with more miles there is just no way it will ever run with my chopped 87(bored, cam, head's and intake)and I don't expect it to. But when Im going down the Hwy. its nice to be able get around some one and never have to down shift and am wondering if the Big Bore will get me there with the Springer Classic.
Thanks for the help
J.B.
Thanks for the help
J.B.
RE: 95" Kit
J.B.
I think you would really like the 95 kit. My Road Glide came with it in 2000. I was really excited in 99 when the kit came out and was going to have it installed on my next bike. Luckily it was already on the new bike
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There are a lot of things you can do in conjunction with the 95 kit installation to help beef it up even more. Stage 1, Power Commander, Pipes, Different pistons or cams or all of the above. My 95 screams around cars with no down shifting. That's what I love about it.
Terry
I think you would really like the 95 kit. My Road Glide came with it in 2000. I was really excited in 99 when the kit came out and was going to have it installed on my next bike. Luckily it was already on the new bike
.There are a lot of things you can do in conjunction with the 95 kit installation to help beef it up even more. Stage 1, Power Commander, Pipes, Different pistons or cams or all of the above. My 95 screams around cars with no down shifting. That's what I love about it.
Terry
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RE: 95" Kit
ORIGINAL: JB
Just wondering what you all think of the 95" kit is it worth it or not? I love the the way the Springer run's (pipes, intake, racetuner) and even though I just turned over 500 mi. on it and know that it will get better with more miles there is just no way it will ever run with my chopped 87(bored, cam, head's and intake)and I don't expect it to. But when Im going down the Hwy. its nice to be able get around some one and never have to down shift and am wondering if the Big Bore will get me there with the Springer Classic.
Thanks for the help
J.B.
Just wondering what you all think of the 95" kit is it worth it or not? I love the the way the Springer run's (pipes, intake, racetuner) and even though I just turned over 500 mi. on it and know that it will get better with more miles there is just no way it will ever run with my chopped 87(bored, cam, head's and intake)and I don't expect it to. But when Im going down the Hwy. its nice to be able get around some one and never have to down shift and am wondering if the Big Bore will get me there with the Springer Classic.
Thanks for the help
J.B.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
Gary
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RE: 95" Kit
The 95" motor is a good all around upgrade. If you ride two up alot, pull a trailer, or just want a stronger running bike, I recommend doing it. I have a 02 SE RK that came with the 95" motor, I'm running Rineharts, upgraded 8" round K&N filter with Ness Big Sucker backing plate, 203 cams, PC III usb. The heads are stock with 9 to 1 comp. ratio. Horse power is supposed to be in the high 80's to low 90's, I have'nt dyno'ed it yet, but it will smoke a stock SE 103 no problem.
My gas mileage is in the high 38-39 and I know I could get a little better if I conserved a little more, but it's so much fun to wick the throttle on. I think the single most important thing on the upgrade and any upgrade or high performance application, is the heads, you need a good flow rate and the stock heads just won't do it, without being worked on. HD has I think performance plus heads for the 95" and if you get them ported and flowed, it's the right ticket. BC Gerlomy, Branch Flowmetrics and Kendall Johnson does real good head work and either could put you in the right direction.
You also need a good ingition upgrade such as Powercommander or Daytona Twin Tec. to go along with the 95", the final piece of the puzzle is a good dyno tune to get the correct AFR (air fuel ratio's) correct for optimun performance and reliabilty and rideability. You can also use the 204 or if you want super performance the 251 cam, but you might want to upgrade the throttle body to a Dakota Kid 48 mm upgrade as well for the additional fuel needed.
There's a bunch of combinations that you can use to get good results from, I recommend going to Branch Flow Metrics website, BC Gerlomy, and to Kendall Johnson, that's three I know you can count on what they tell you and it's just a matter of personal preference after that for who you use.
Either way you will love a 95" upgrade and will never look back to the 88" there's no comparison IMHO.
My gas mileage is in the high 38-39 and I know I could get a little better if I conserved a little more, but it's so much fun to wick the throttle on. I think the single most important thing on the upgrade and any upgrade or high performance application, is the heads, you need a good flow rate and the stock heads just won't do it, without being worked on. HD has I think performance plus heads for the 95" and if you get them ported and flowed, it's the right ticket. BC Gerlomy, Branch Flowmetrics and Kendall Johnson does real good head work and either could put you in the right direction.
You also need a good ingition upgrade such as Powercommander or Daytona Twin Tec. to go along with the 95", the final piece of the puzzle is a good dyno tune to get the correct AFR (air fuel ratio's) correct for optimun performance and reliabilty and rideability. You can also use the 204 or if you want super performance the 251 cam, but you might want to upgrade the throttle body to a Dakota Kid 48 mm upgrade as well for the additional fuel needed.
There's a bunch of combinations that you can use to get good results from, I recommend going to Branch Flow Metrics website, BC Gerlomy, and to Kendall Johnson, that's three I know you can count on what they tell you and it's just a matter of personal preference after that for who you use.
Either way you will love a 95" upgrade and will never look back to the 88" there's no comparison IMHO.
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RE: 95" Kit
I hear what you're saying Mike. No kid here either, although I am not that far behind. This FXD is my first Big Twin, after 22 years on an old Ironhead that served faithfully with no major problems and a short stint with a '64 XLCH that was just too "old school" for my tastes. Kick start, drum brakes that didn't work worth crap. Kind of makes my old '82 XLH look like the Space Shuttle in comparison.
Just looking to perk up the new ride with a few go fast(er) goodies to get me where I want to a little quicker, without breaking the budget or putting $10,000.00 worth of upgrades into a $14,000.00 bike. It's evolving slowly as the bank account (and wife) will allow, although I do go by the motto "It is easier to beg for forgiveness than ask permission."
Gary
Just looking to perk up the new ride with a few go fast(er) goodies to get me where I want to a little quicker, without breaking the budget or putting $10,000.00 worth of upgrades into a $14,000.00 bike. It's evolving slowly as the bank account (and wife) will allow, although I do go by the motto "It is easier to beg for forgiveness than ask permission."
Gary
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RE: 95" Kit
John TN, thanks for your recommendations. I've actually been looking at a kit from Zipper's Performance, but am interested in anyone else's experience with the 95" builds from Branch, H-D or anywhere else. I think the milder cam is what I'm looking for, dont' really intend to go too fast to attract any "unwanted" attention from the nice fellows in the grey uniforms here in NY.
I'll keep looking for the best fit and will be glad to have any other recommendations. There is still a few months before the warranty runs out and that'll be the time to get the upgrade done.
Gary
I'll keep looking for the best fit and will be glad to have any other recommendations. There is still a few months before the warranty runs out and that'll be the time to get the upgrade done.
Gary
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From: Arizona
RE: 95" Kit
I purchased an 05 FLHTCUI recently and found it to be a bit lacking performance wise especially riding 2 up and when accelerating from75 mph on the highway. So when I took it in 10 days later for the 1000 mile service, I had them install the SE Big Bore Stage II kit, an oil cooler, and the SE Pro slip on mufflers. The stage II kit includes the pistons and jugs to raise the cubic inches to 95, the 203 cams, and the Stage 1 intake and air cleaner upgrade. ECM calibration and adjustable pushrods were also added.
The bike I got back looked the same as the one I left, but there was a whole new beast lurking under the fuel tank The motor just behaves completely different. Acceleration is much better with this kit. 3rd gear in particular is quite spectacular. Roll on acceleration in high gear from 75 mph is probably the most noticable improvement. It went from slowly gaining speed in the stock configuration to just jumping up and leaving now. All in all, I would recommend it highly.
There was a down side however, the tuning accomplished by the ECM calibration caused my brand new mufflers to change colors in less than 200 miles. Even though the ECM map was supposed to be tuned for the particular upgrades done to my motor, it seems to have been a bit lean thus causing the pipe to turn color immediately. Needless to say I was more than a little annoyed about this and to make it right the HD dealer installed the SE race tuner kit, retuned my motor and improved the performance even more. Sadly though, my new pipes are already scorched.
Moral of the story: Stage II big bore kit is great, but if you go there, the PC or race tuner kit and proper tuning are absolute necessities.
Hope this helps,
Steve
The bike I got back looked the same as the one I left, but there was a whole new beast lurking under the fuel tank
The motor just behaves completely different. Acceleration is much better with this kit. 3rd gear in particular is quite spectacular. Roll on acceleration in high gear from 75 mph is probably the most noticable improvement. It went from slowly gaining speed in the stock configuration to just jumping up and leaving now. All in all, I would recommend it highly.There was a down side however, the tuning accomplished by the ECM calibration caused my brand new mufflers to change colors in less than 200 miles. Even though the ECM map was supposed to be tuned for the particular upgrades done to my motor, it seems to have been a bit lean thus causing the pipe to turn color immediately. Needless to say I was more than a little annoyed about this and to make it right the HD dealer installed the SE race tuner kit, retuned my motor and improved the performance even more. Sadly though, my new pipes are already scorched.
Moral of the story: Stage II big bore kit is great, but if you go there, the PC or race tuner kit and proper tuning are absolute necessities.
Hope this helps,
Steve