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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Hi on my 1989 FLHTP I will be pulling the motor, the motor near as I can tell has been top end rebuilt at least once and bottom end also at least once and only reason I know this is I've seen white\clear silicone or something along that line hanging from the casing joints at the bottom. My question is are there any tell tail signs that the bottom end needs to be split once the top end is removed? I don't have a lot of extra cash and the bike makes no un-normal sounds when its running.All I've done to the motor myself is a bit more aggressive cam and new HD lifters along with easy install pushrods.I had done compression test on hot motor and got 140 lb on front and back.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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if it aint broke dont fix it . check the crank run out and that will tell if the flywheels are good still if they are with in spec your good.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by car5car
Here is crank bearing check procedure for cars which maybe can be used for Harleys.
Turn crank and stop in position pulling piston down. Through spark plug hole push piston down by thick philips screwdriver . If bearing is bad you will feel free play. It is a good idea to use metal rod with round end to minimize piston damage.
If you don't hear crank knock why do you worry?
What are you spewing??????

It's an Evo motor, NOT A Flood Damaged Subaru....

With your vast knowledge of the V-Twin motor, I will ask that you CEASE and DESIST from advising on things that you have no WORKING knowledge of...
 
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ridemywg
Hi on my 1989 FLHTP I will be pulling the motor, the motor near as I can tell has been top end rebuilt at least once and bottom end also at least once and only reason I know this is I've seen white\clear silicone or something along that line hanging from the casing joints at the bottom. My question is are there any tell tail signs that the bottom end needs to be split once the top end is removed? I don't have a lot of extra cash and the bike makes no un-normal sounds when its running.All I've done to the motor myself is a bit more aggressive cam and new HD lifters along with easy install pushrods.I had done compression test on hot motor and got 140 lb on front and back.
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Your lower end MIGHT or Might NOT have been split... That is case sealant, and it is grey in color, and it will ooze out a little bit....

The only way to know if you need to split the cases is to do a radial runout check on BOTH pinion ends.... Total runout spec is in your manual, but should be as close to 0.001" as possible...

Those are tough wheels in that motor, but they can be knocked out of true... That is really the only reason, other than the motor seal at the stator leaking, and even then, the case doesn't have to be split...
 
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by car5car
Here is crank bearing check procedure for cars which maybe can be used for Harleys.
Turn crank and stop in position pulling piston down. Through spark plug hole push piston down by thick philips screwdriver . If bearing is bad you will feel free play. It is a good idea to use metal rod with round end to minimize piston damage.
If you don't hear crank knock why do you worry?
did you sleep in your helmet again car???? i"ve been in the car/truck repair business for 35 yrs and your phillips screwdriver test is the most backwoods,shadetree,wannabe used car lot mechanic crap i ever heard of.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Car, Harley cranks are nothing like automobile cranks. They are not one solid piece, they are pressed together and they can "shift". I know you are trying to help, but you may need to sit back and absorb a little more info, when it comes to subjects like this.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shovelhead Bob
What are you spewing??????

It's an Evo motor, NOT A Flood Damaged Subaru....

With your vast knowledge of the V-Twin motor, I will ask that you CEASE and DESIST from advising on things that you have no WORKING knowledge of...
Oh HO! When I do this and add an editorial comment... I get thrown into the wood shed!

HAHA
 
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140# compression test for both cylinders, no unusual noises or vibration, all indications are things are ok---now-- When you change the oil after a good hot run, strain the oil through a paint strainer and check for any pieces of metal, brass, aluminum, iron,, remember pieces of metal are bad,, fine dust on the drain plug magnet or paint strainer are to be expected,, also I would suggest opening up the oil filter, look for (pieces) between the filter folds. If none are found,, adjust the clutch if needed,,fresh filter and blood and enjoy your ride. I would suggest no screwdrivers touching the pistons --just sayin,, anyone else have some ideas for ridemywg?

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by txtec
did you sleep in your helmet again car???? i"ve been in the car/truck repair business for 35 yrs and your phillips screwdriver test is the most backwoods,shadetree,wannabe used car lot mechanic crap i ever heard of.
It seems like you only changed oil for 35 years. Did they trust you to change brake pads? I forgot Jiffy lube doesn't do that.
There is nothing to talk to you about unless you were working in engine machine shop.
 

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