Engine upgrade
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contact info for Keven Baxter http://protwin.com/index.aspx
I have a 2004 Electra Glide Classic that I had upgraded a few years ago. HD did the upgrade and installed race tuner, Screaming Eagle heads, 251 cam, and more. I already had Rhinehart duel exhaust. I still do not feel like I'm getting everything that I should from the engine and on top of that has much more top noise than before. I would like to quiten it down some (top end) and upgrade to maybe a 103, 107 or 110. I want more take off and top end speed & power. Any suggestions? Also any suggestions on a good "motor" guy around or close to Atlanta or Cumming, Swannee, Georgia area that I could get to do the work?
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Good luck with the least dollars part.
If you want to performance the engine some more you are looking at P&P on the heads, new pistons, cams and all components chosen to get you to the right corrected compression as a system. You are also looking at a new, larger throttle body, roller rockers, higher performance tappets, adjustable pushrods, etc., then a re-tune.
Your bike is an '04, so it has not been stroked. You may think about taking the bottom end apart, installing the stroker crankshaft then you can achieve 103" or 107". While you have the bottom end apart do the timken LH main bearing mod.
So, all of that should add up to about $6K - $7K. Now you are in the neighborhood of a crate motor. How about a S&S 124"? That is why I asked how much do you want to spend.
Since you have all of that torn apart, let's go ahead and install the 6 speed tranny. Do you see what I mean - there is no end to what you can do. Oh yeah, we are going to need to address the clutch, too. While we are at, we should probably install an oil cooler.
If you want to performance the engine some more you are looking at P&P on the heads, new pistons, cams and all components chosen to get you to the right corrected compression as a system. You are also looking at a new, larger throttle body, roller rockers, higher performance tappets, adjustable pushrods, etc., then a re-tune.
Your bike is an '04, so it has not been stroked. You may think about taking the bottom end apart, installing the stroker crankshaft then you can achieve 103" or 107". While you have the bottom end apart do the timken LH main bearing mod.
So, all of that should add up to about $6K - $7K. Now you are in the neighborhood of a crate motor. How about a S&S 124"? That is why I asked how much do you want to spend.
Since you have all of that torn apart, let's go ahead and install the 6 speed tranny. Do you see what I mean - there is no end to what you can do. Oh yeah, we are going to need to address the clutch, too. While we are at, we should probably install an oil cooler.
Last edited by harley_jeff; Mar 4, 2012 at 10:51 AM.
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I have a 2004 Electra Glide Classic that I had upgraded a few years ago. HD did the upgrade and installed race tuner, Screaming Eagle heads, 251 cam, and more. I already had Rhinehart duel exhaust. I still do not feel like I'm getting everything that I should from the engine and on top of that has much more top noise than before. I would like to quiten it down some (top end) and upgrade to maybe a 103, 107 or 110. I want more take off and top end speed & power. Any suggestions?
So basically, you have three routes you can go; bore your cylinder to fit new pistons for 95" or 98" displacement, work the heads, new cams, valve train and re-tune. A combination of components that play well together and about $2500 later, you should be happy.
The second route is spending more money to go bigger, i.e., lower unit work; Lefty main bearing; new crank, trued, balanced and welded; new cylinders/pistons, headwork, cams, valve train, etc. and about $5-$6K later, you're done.
The third route is the crate motor route. H-D 120R is the best crate motor deal going now; some discount dealers are selling them for under $5000.
So, how much do you want to spend? IMHO, you can achieve your goal following through Door #1.
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A couple years ago you did some work and your already looking for more. Of course budget will dictate how far you can go, with this said, build the biggest baddest motor you can, whether it's a build or a crate because the bug will hit you again.
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I have a 2004 Electra Glide Classic that I had upgraded a few years ago. HD did the upgrade and installed race tuner, Screaming Eagle heads, 251 cam, and more. I already had Rhinehart duel exhaust. I still do not feel like I'm getting everything that I should from the engine and on top of that has much more top noise than before. I would like to quiten it down some (top end) and upgrade to maybe a 103, 107 or 110. I want more take off and top end speed & power. Any suggestions? Also any suggestions on a good "motor" guy around or close to Atlanta or Cumming, Swannee, Georgia area that I could get to do the work?
Is it running a canned map or did you get it dyno tuned.
If it's a canned map I will bet some tuning will turn out a few extra hp and torque.
Remote tuning isn't perfect because each bike is different. My mustang ran a canned map from sct which equalled 266rwhp and 302ft/lbs torque.
I got it dynotuned and got 280 and 325 ft/lbs torque.
That is power you can feel. And cost me 3 hours dyno time.
Try a dyno tune unless you really want to throw money at it. The S&S 124 is a bad boy for sure
If it's a canned map I will bet some tuning will turn out a few extra hp and torque.
Remote tuning isn't perfect because each bike is different. My mustang ran a canned map from sct which equalled 266rwhp and 302ft/lbs torque.
I got it dynotuned and got 280 and 325 ft/lbs torque.
That is power you can feel. And cost me 3 hours dyno time.
Try a dyno tune unless you really want to throw money at it. The S&S 124 is a bad boy for sure
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absolutely the G square -126 is no joke, neither is the price; but for $5400 you can get a S&S 111 with a three year warranty for Star racing as well
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Star does have that T111 yes. I just gave him a shop's info that is kinda close to his house, as he was asking for. If he is considering an engine swap and wants REAL power, not just playing around, the the 126 is the only real answer in my mind. But as you stated his budget and his desire for power(and his ability to handle it) should be his guide.